Bandits and Griefing on Hardcore

i have no problem with the choose a side mechanic, but ppl who post up "kill oak" parties just to do the opposite are just dickbags. even more so in hardcore. the mechanic isnt the problem, its the ppl who ruin it for others

Hardcore in any ARPG is the wild west. At least this was avoidable and will make you think twice before doing it again. I consider true griefing when someone does something that is completely out of your control. Like when people blocked the spawn area in TF2 on certain maps.

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stayflyazn написал:

i have no problem with the choose a side mechanic, but ppl who post up "kill oak" parties just to do the opposite are just dickbags. even more so in hardcore. the mechanic isnt the problem, its the ppl who ruin it for others

Absolutely, they're complete dickheads for pulling that. But to sit here and whine for 15 pages on the basis that it's unfair because you didn't know it could happen?

I think the underlying problem here is that kuek is playing on Hardcore when he is, in fact, not Hardcore at all.

Oh FFS.

NEVER group with people you don't know when you either:

A) Need a rare drop.

B) Have a good chance of dying and there's a penalty for it.

Period. End of Story. I'm sorry if this conflicts with your idea of what 'should' be - but we must deal with life as it currently is.

Also - IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE DC DEATHS IN HC - DON'T PLAY HC DURING BETA.

Don't play hardcore if you aren't prepared to suffer from a bullshit death. At least you could have avoided this one, I've seen level 50 characters get killed while moving through a town portal (You're still in the area during the loading screen, so critters can still hit you).

At least they didn't cry on the forums about it...

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stayflyazn написал:

i have no problem with the choose a side mechanic, but ppl who post up "kill oak" parties just to do the opposite are just dickbags. even more so in hardcore. the mechanic isnt the problem, its the ppl who ruin it for others

The way I see it is the fact that people intentionally grief is what causes this mechanic to be problematic. I'm fine with PvP, and I'm fine with people who want to partake in perma HC deathmatch PvP. What I'm not fine with is a mandatory quest, that if done in a social party, leaves you prone to get screwed by douche-bags who lie to you about their intention.

This has nothing to do with not being prepared to die on HC. This has everything to do with voicing my opinion over a quest mechanic is I think problematic. I'm sorry if some people here have a problem in making that distinction.

Your playing Hardcore and you team up with pubbies? Always play alone or with friends you know.

You got what was coming to you. Also i'm glad this game lets you kill people like that. Should be able to hostile people in any public game and kill them. Oh well just gonna have to wait for the cutthroat league.

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scerviche написал:

Should be able to hostile people in any public game and kill them. Oh well just gonna have to wait for the cutthroat league.

And since this isn't cut-throat league, you've simply made my point for me.

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kuek написал:

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stayflyazn написал:

i have no problem with the choose a side mechanic, but ppl who post up "kill oak" parties just to do the opposite are just dickbags. even more so in hardcore. the mechanic isnt the problem, its the ppl who ruin it for others

The way I see it is the fact that people intentionally grief is what causes this mechanic to be problematic. I'm fine with PvP, and I'm fine with people who want to partake in perma HC deathmatch PvP. What I'm not fine with is a mandatory quest, that if done in a social party, leaves you prone to get screwed by douchebags.

the quest can still be done in a party where someone chooses to side differently. you can avoid having to kill each other by not being in a different map when other players are killing the bandit you decided to side with. so the mechanic can totally be sidestepped if you dont want to have to kill each other in the party. then you have ppl who intentionally want to kill others.

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kuek написал:

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scerviche написал:

Your playing Hardcore and you team up with pubbies? Always play alone or with friends you know.

You got what was coming to you. Also i'm glad this game lets you kill people like that. Should be able to hostile people in any public game and kill them. Oh well just gonna have to wait for the cutthroat league.

Exactly, this isn't cut-throat league. Point and case.

Every league should be cut throat is what i'm saying.

Weed out the HC scrubby babies and leave the real players to do there thing. Oh and im so doing this quest trick to people tonight. It will be fun.