Can We Get Rid of Death XP Penalties Already? Games Are Supposed to be Fun

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Johny_Snow написал:

Hey, thats actually a really good point I never thought about.

Suppose GGG removes the death penalty. Item choices and class choices then become completely skewed, everyone starts playing Ranger/Witch while Duelist is almost never touched, only items with damage/speed/quantity have any value, etc. Then GGG decides to balance the game because I doubt having 90%+ of their higher level community playing some sort of a Deadeye or Elementalist was their intention. Suddenly by nerfing those 2 classes to make them comparable to the defense classes who got left in the dust they skew the HC balance and make them unusuable in HC. GGG will have no choice but to balance the game for 2 different leagues.

Nice, I like that, they can completely ruin the game by removing the penalty, I actually want to see it now, the fall of PoE.

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Johny_Snow написал:

So if I assume you are stupid that wont offend you? I am playing games too you know, cant you tell?

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Adaemeneten написал:

Someone either in this thread (or another) posted this article on exit points, and I find it telling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjkWec61gQ. This is pretty much where I am.

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Johny_Snow написал:

Like I said before: I don't want changes which will most likely lead to balancing problems, you do. If the exp penalty disappears the most affected people might be the HC players who did nothing wrong to begin with. Why? Because the game needs to be balanced around SC, where the most people are playing. If the exp penalty disappears that would mean one of 2 things. 1. The high speed clear characters need to get their damage nerfed to the ground which will make them completely unappealing for HC. Or 2. The defensive classes will get their defenses stripped for more damage and clear speed so people can consider them, which will make HC a massive pain to play.

Either way the game will suffer for the pleasure of a select few who cant be bothered to build around the problem instead of destroying it.

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Holmiester написал:

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Or could complain about it ... or you could pull your fingers out and look for an answer yourself, that's how Wraeclast works, it's not going to feed you information in a non-immersive way.

There is literally no information provided to the player when they die beyond that they have died.

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Holmiester написал:

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Fruz написал:

yeah, no ... it really isn't.
It only matters for hard encounters pretty much.

Yes, that was already implied but thank you for stating the obvious I suppose. The penalty of death is wasted time and portals, and it is up to the player and the situation at hand which of those is worse.

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ffogell написал:

We need to help them get better

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Adaemeneten написал:

I'm an older gamer (56) and play games to unwind after my day job and to connect with my kids. They're the ones that got me hooked on this game. At first the game was fun - we had a blast running through the content.

The game is fun and enjoyable, up to a point. At the time you hit Act 6/7/maps you realize build that you've leveled and enjoyed is not viable. In comes orbs of regret, respec'ing your character, install PoB, and try to work out a viable build. Yes, you do get better. Maps become doable, but to a point. Death comes at you from every which way, and it comes fast.

I find the game most enjoyable right after I level. I explore maps that I don't normally do and play at the more difficult content. At the point I decide I want to level, I find that I don't play the game - I try to game it just to experience some modicum of progress. That means doing 'easy' maps with low-risk mods. Leveling is not playing - it means merely avoiding death. This isn't fun. It's quite boring and tedious, which is not a good combination for any game.

Someone either in this thread (or another) posted this article on exit points, and I find it telling: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjkWec61gQ. This is pretty much where I am.