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Calypso589 написал:
You want conditions that reward real gamer skill and dedication yet you're bitching because you can't kill Atziri.
Nice.
No mate, not even remotely correct. I am sitting on about 17 ex in wealth and have no doubts that that's enough to tweak my build/gear to finish her off. 20 days left is more than enough time to get it done, because I'm a solid old school gamer. Just tired, bored and there's no point.
Besides, the 3 guardians you gotta kill to get to her are worse.
That 'wealth' doesnt buy you a new car or pay the bills or get you any food. So calling a few ex 'wealth' made me cringe.
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СообщениеУдалено14 июн. 2014 г., 17:29:34
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DirkAustin написал:
That 'wealth' doesnt buy you a new car or pay the bills or get you any food. So calling a few ex 'wealth' made me cringe.
100% agree with your point. Let me re-phrase, I have 17ex in fake computer monopoly money which I could use to tweak my shit to get Atziri down and secure the challenge condition required for the T-shirt.
Speaking of things that make me cringe: the word "Mjolner". Can't stand it. Mjolner is the Justin Beiber of this game.
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СообщениеF1ghtClub#270814 июн. 2014 г., 17:38:01
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DirkAustin написал:
That 'wealth' doesnt buy you a new car or pay the bills or get you any food. So calling a few ex 'wealth' made me cringe.
100% agree with your point. Let me re-phrase, I have 17ex in fake computer monopoly money which I could use to tweak my shit to get Atziri down and secure the challenge condition required for the T-shirt.
Speaking of things that make me cringe: the word "Mjolner". Can't stand it. Mjolner is the Justin Beiber of this game.
Much love and kisses to you for correcting your error. ;)
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СообщениеУдалено14 июн. 2014 г., 17:48:59
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F1ghtClub написал:
100% agree with your point. Let me re-phrase, I have 17ex in fake computer monopoly money which I could use to tweak my shit to get Atziri down and secure the challenge condition required for the T-shirt.
Or I could just buy the T-Shirt.... wait it's not for sale? GGG why you no want my money?
No matter the cost bitches, no matter the cost.
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СообщениеNazdravanix#244414 июн. 2014 г., 18:10:14
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Calypso589 написал:
You want conditions that reward real gamer skill and dedication yet you're bitching because you can't kill Atziri.
Nice.
No mate, not even remotely correct. I am sitting on about 17 ex in wealth and have no doubts that that's enough to tweak my build/gear to finish her off. 20 days left is more than enough time to get it done, because I'm a solid old school gamer. Just tired, bored and there's no point.
Besides, the 3 guardians you gotta kill to get to her are worse.
then wtf are you bitching about?
You literally just explained to me how your dedication and skill is enough to bring her down and get rewarded for it without using RMT.
I are confused.
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СообщениеCalypso589#449414 июн. 2014 г., 18:35:17
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F1ghtClub написал:
Missing 2 Challenge conditions:
1: Kill Atziri (have solo-killed everything up to her and got her down to about 50% using just 9 sacrifice sets so far...with fucking Searing Bond and Flameblast of all things)
2: Own these Vaal items (have like 31 of 44 items atm)
Could easily buy an Atziri kill using one of the many 'Atziri Services' out there right now. Could easily RMT a pair of the expensive (52 ex) CoC gauntlets, trade for the rest to get to 44/44...but I'm a real gamer and would never, really actually consider doing either of these things.
So what's my point? Point is your challenge conditions suck and I really hope you improve them for future leagues. Create win conditions that reward REAL gamer skill/dedication.
Some suggestions because you are SO bad at this GGG...
(a) get to level 90 without using a single respec point in the passive tree
(b) go the entire league without receiving any infractions on the forums
(c) kill Merciless Dominus solo, before level 60 and Atziri, before level 80 (solo)
(d) Complete Merciless hard core without ever having a friendly aura on your character
(e) Complete league content with ZERO trades
tl;dr league challenge conditions reward things you shouldn't like overcoming RNG gates or having other people carry you through stuff or copying someone's build/exploit or encouraging RMT. Keep your shirt, don't want it. Would use as a rag.
You want conditions that reward real gamer skill and dedication yet you're bitching because you can't kill Atziri.
Nice.
That isnt what the thread was about I think. Stop trolling.
I'm not trolling.
It's either him bitching he can't beat her (which isn't the case it seems) or it's him saying their challenges suck.
Either way his argument is a shit one.
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СообщениеCalypso589#449414 июн. 2014 г., 18:36:37
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@op, understandable.
I am in a same situation for atziri, made a build to down here, but since you require AOE dps for healing phase, it's a bust. (on the up-side, i can facetank her all day 24/7 *yeay*)
Could prolly respec or rebuild, but since it then is no longer "my build", why bother at all.
Not that i am going for the challenges or the t-shirt, but i understand your situation.
Being stubborn bites you in the ass :').
Peace,
-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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СообщениеBoem#286114 июн. 2014 г., 18:44:27На испытательном сроке
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Calypso589 написал:
I'm not trolling.
It's either him bitching he can't beat her (which isn't the case it seems) or it's him saying their challenges suck.
Either way his argument is a shit one.
Do you really not see his point?
Really?
The T-shirt achievements (and the MTX achievement) from day 1 have been things you buy, not achieve, at least in part, often in full. And with each league it has gotten worse. To the point that it would be impossible to achieve them doing otherwise.
OP doesn't want this achievement, OP wouldn't see it as an achievement, OP would rather the achievements were different. OP makes a fucking good point.
Sadly, GGG see these achievements as, and I quote, "extremely challenging".
Even more sad, the more expensive and rare the items required are, the more challenging GGG see this to be.
They miss the concept of challenge, by a light year.
Casually casual.
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СообщениеTheAnuhart#474114 июн. 2014 г., 18:45:15
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CharanJaydemyr написал:
SotV was a learning experience for GGG. Invasion "shipped" utterly broken (and we said it was, but oh well) and the challenges, killing the big boss, could be "bought" as a service.
Neither are going to be remembered fondly, but I think GGG are banking on the relatively short memory of gamers, and that the next expansion will have very little in it to remind us of the SotV debacle.
That is the word for it. I love side areas, I love vaal skills, I really liked the strongbox idea. But they all could have been implemented without SotV. SotV was really about the idea of invasion and the "return" of an Ancient Evil. I don't think either was handled very well.
I was surprised at that one at first but then thought, the game is fun as it is even if i will never do the expansions boss. Ambush and invasion were fun while i played them before my break, it was more of a guild thing with them though and since im out i kinda lost interest in them.
Lets see what the next leagues and expansions and such will bring.
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СообщениеУдалено14 июн. 2014 г., 18:52:33
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Agree with OP. Not worth to bother. Just do the ones you enjoy doing.
In Dom/Nem I went for 7/8 challenges, consciously disregarding the eight one: "shop for these 100 items here".
I really enjoyed doing the "kill all unique bosses" one, still remember the first encounters with Igna, Xandro & Palace Dom. That's what aRPGs are mostly about, climbing & owning the difficulty ladder.
To prevent bankruptcy, GGG had to put some insane limitations on T-shirt handouts. The easiest limitation is to make people own some insanely rare items, that are gated behind mind-numbing layers of RNG & lots of hours of trading.
There is another thread around about challenges, and I agree we'd need tiers. Lower tiers would get some symbolic reward in form of items (akin to race rewards).
The OP proposed challenges are also interesting, and reflect more the aRPG gameplay, instead of trade gameplay. Sadly with this system in place - where everything can be bought or sold - people would sell "boss kills under level X challenge" to others, trivializing everything. That would only work in a solo league.
When night falls
She cloaks the world
In impenetrable darkness
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Сообщениеmorbo#182414 июн. 2014 г., 18:54:54
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