is giving up 28% max ES worth it to get zealots oath?

recently I've spec'd out 6 points to grab zealots oath, 3 of the points being virtually wasted. I'm a summoner, running 3 puritiy auras+vitality+discipilne. I'm currently testing out running all defensive auras and allowing myself to just run as high rarity gear as i can get ahold of, and decided to test out zealots oath.

I can stand on fire in at least 75 maps and out heal it.

Before zealots Oath I had about 7200 ES, with max resists (discipline as well), and currently i have 6k ES.

2 of the points I removed were dexterity and strength, which were un-needed with the points I took to get zealots oath. But I lost a total of 28% ES and some ES recovery to get it.


ES regens at a pretty good rate i think, but burst damage would still kill me I feel. I decided to try it to give me an insentive to run vitality to keep zombies alive.



current
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABkkOSBCXES8RUBGWE2wV1xcvGYoZ6RpsGo8c3B0UHaokiySwKPoqmCxGLL8vbzvhPI48vUNjRARGcU25UEJV1lZjV8lY9VqRZOdmnmdYaqxr220Zb55wu3FNc1N9GH_GgKSCx4MJhWCGrobRiECIa49GkDOTJ5rPm6GbtZ2uncSiLqKjpqynCKcrqH2qxLQMtve3MbiTu9a_l8AawFTBxcHzwzrJPcpKzLzQ0NP714bZC9kT3nfhiOL344TkreaB6rrr7uyK8h7z3fba98H31_qA-tL7Cf5J


this is the tree I'm currently spec'd into if you're curious.


old
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBkkOSBCXES8RUBGWE2wV1xcvGYoabBqPHNwdFB2qJLAnqSj6KpgsRiy_L2874TyOPL1DY0QERnFNuVBCVdZWY1fJWPVakWTnZp5qrGvbbRlvnnC7cU1zU30Yfll_xoCkgseDCYVghq6G0YhAiGuPRpAzkyeZmprPm6GbtZ2uncSiLqKjpqynCKcrqH2qxLQMtve3MbiTu9a_l8BUwcXB88M6w23JPcpKzLzQ0NP714bZC9kT3nfhiOL344Tmgeq662Pr7uwY7IryHvPd9tr31_qA-tL7Cf5J


This was the tree i had before getting zealots oath
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000307
I wish you didn't go shadow start. you would've made it without sacrifices at witch.

Here's my take. I just moved a few nodes around, getting you to -14% ES instead of -28, adding 10 int and forgoing ES cooldown entirely because... well, ZO. still your choice.

I'd go for it with my tree, and I'd just test it out on your proposed one. I think you'll live with either, tbh.
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Последняя редакция: enveratise#2153. Время: 6 июн. 2014 г., 09:48:02
Do you use rejuvenation totem? It will get a bonus from all your aura passives as well and give you about 200ES a second.

I also agree with Enveratise. Can just take the STR node instead of the 2 int nodes and go here.
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requiner написал:
Do you use rejuvenation totem? It will get a bonus from all your aura passives as well and give you about 200ES a second.

I also agree with Enveratise. Can just take the STR node instead of the 2 int nodes and go here.


Thanks for reply. No i do not use rejuvination totem sadly. I've considered it but there's not really a way to fit it into my build without removing a curse, or part of my CWDT setup.


I'm also curious where you two got the points from. I see you guys removed the strength nodes next to the mcae weapon nodes i grabbed but I took 6 points while you guys used 7. i'm trying to figure out where that 7th point came from, as well as the 2 nodes required to grab the 20% ES+8% all res (whihc I love you guys for pointing out i can get !!)


Also, would it be worth while to grab the scion .4% regen nodes and Shaper next, or would it be best to focus on maxing out ES with my final level up points as i get them?

EDIT: Oh i see the points came from nullification. Is it worth dropping this? I personally use more evasion than i do armor. The only armor i have is coming from aurseize. I'm not using much evasion either but I use more than armor. I also like being very close to the 10% ES node, rather than most others being only 6%


is it worth dropping it?
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000307
Последняя редакция: Koldhearted#5573. Время: 6 июн. 2014 г., 19:53:09
Since you're CI, even if you have more evasion than armour, their effects from their nodes would be really small compared to the nodes for your ES.

I'd say go with Shaper, then either go for thr 1% regen in the Templar start or those 0.4% nodes you mentioned, then finally Nullification.

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enveratise написал:
Since you're CI, even if you have more evasion than armour, their effects from their nodes would be really small compared to the nodes for your ES.

I'd say go with Shaper, then either go for thr 1% regen in the Templar start or those 0.4% nodes you mentioned, then finally Nullification.



okay so i reshuffled some points around and currently have 2 points left without taking one of the 6/8 nodes by faith and steel, and atm haven't taken the 8% ES by the witch (??? i tihnk) start, and haven't taken shaper yet

I'm probably gonna take shaper, and the 8% ES node. I was wondering if it'd be worth it to work back towards the 12% ES/15% recovery node, or if possibly going towards inner force would be good?

or should i just go with more flat ES or regen %
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000307
I know you said you couldn't work it in but a rejuv totem is extremely strong on aurabot summoners. Not only is it going to give you a good bit of surv since you have ZO now, it'll make your minions all the more tanky.


I don't know how tanky your minions are, or how often you have to resummon but either way rejuv is extremely useful as a summoner. Not to mention your group mates will love it as not many people run a rejuv.

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Последняя редакция: Vandalain#2745. Время: 6 июн. 2014 г., 22:20:09
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Vandalain написал:
I know you said you couldn't work it in but a rejuv totem is extremely strong on aurabot summoners. Not only is it going to give you a good bit of surv since you have ZO now, it'll make your minions all the more tanky.


I don't know how tanky your minions are, or how often you have to resummon but either way rejuv is extremely useful as a summoner. Not to mention your group mates will love it as not many people run a rejuv.



according to tooltip my zombies have 7.1k hp and it's a raise zombie 21/20. I removed warlords mark and am trying rejuvination totem atm, but it's still low level. Does hp scale up as it levels?

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000307
didn't know I could look at character screen for regen amounts

Without Totem i have 246 ES regen per second, and with i have 396 (currently lvl 11 totem)

I think I'm gonna keep the Zealots oath setup.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1000307
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