Any way we could -NOT- have bestiary added to core?

I know there are a bunch of people that can't press more than one button slow down for a moment or game their way out of a tic tac toe problem that HATE bestiary but its an optional feature you can choose to ignore that is fun for probably the vast bulk of the more casual slower POE players (literally 70-80% of the playerbase AKA the people who aren't angry posting here every day).

Please keep Bestiary its a fun mechanic for people who can game and relish gaming. More importantly its an island of at least semi-determinisitic farming opportunities in a game that has entirely too few of those.

Signed
-one of the non vocal majority

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Zebedin написал:

are you not bored of 1 shotting map monsters ? i am,

This is the basic problem the people who rail against anything but one shotting whole screens are mostly transitory they're called "content locusts" in the MMO side of the industry. Basically they meta game their way to certain victory in the first weeks of a league using known successful meta builds, get bored and then make angry posts on reddit full of entitlement and demands for more short lived content than any game dev can realistically provide to a Broken meta player. Then they move on replaced by the next drone that can't press more than one button.

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alhazred70 написал:

I know there are a bunch of people that can't press more than one button slow down for a moment or game their way out of a tic tac toe problem that HATE bestiary but its an optional feature you can choose to ignore that is fun for probably the vast bulk of the more casual slower POE players (literally 70-80% of the playerbase AKA the people who aren't angry posting here every day).

Please keep Bestiary its a fun mechanic for people who can game and relish gaming. More importantly its an island of at least semi-determinisitic farming opportunities in a game that has entirely too few of those.

Signed
-one of the non vocal majority

Again, for you delusional few, the REAL vocal minority GGG has already announced that the league was a poor idea and horribly recieved and 3.3 will be the exact opposite.

At this point with the game developers themselves saying its not what people wanted how do you continue to say its what people want AND call us the vocal minority.

News flash, 98% of reddit and the official forums for a 2 month span is NOT the minority. Im glad you like the league, you and a small amount of people do. For those of you that do, there are about 45 different versions of pokemon you can play, or monster hunter, or digimon. For the rest of us, the MAJORITY, we are here to play an ARPG, so 3.3 returns us to you know, the actual genre of the game.

Honestly snap out of it, this vocal minority BS. Read the 3.3 announcement people, the devs themselves are telling you they screwed the pooch on this league, what are you arguing at this point.

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JCOH35 написал:

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alhazred70 написал:

I know there are a bunch of people that can't press more than one button slow down for a moment or game their way out of a tic tac toe problem that HATE bestiary but its an optional feature you can choose to ignore that is fun for probably the vast bulk of the more casual slower POE players (literally 70-80% of the playerbase AKA the people who aren't angry posting here every day).

Please keep Bestiary its a fun mechanic for people who can game and relish gaming. More importantly its an island of at least semi-determinisitic farming opportunities in a game that has entirely too few of those.

Signed
-one of the non vocal majority

Again, for you delusional few, the REAL vocal minority GGG has already announced that the league was a poor idea and horribly recieved and 3.3 will be the exact opposite.

At this point with the game developers themselves saying its not what people wanted how do you continue to say its what people want AND call us the vocal minority.

News flash, 98% of reddit and the official forums for a 2 month span is NOT the minority. Im glad you like the league, you and a small amount of people do. For those of you that do, there are about 45 different versions of pokemon you can play, or monster hunter, or digimon. For the rest of us, the MAJORITY, we are here to play an ARPG, so 3.3 returns us to you know, the actual genre of the game.

Honestly snap out of it, this vocal minority BS. Read the 3.3 announcement people, the devs themselves are telling you they screwed the pooch on this league, what are you arguing at this point.

While you're correct that Chris has chosen to publicly pander to players who can't press more than one button, the facts don't line up with your assumptions. Reddit and the forums by GGG's own public statements are a tiny fraction of a percent of the player base that tend to be highly non representative of the whole and much more vocal and angry/unhappy with the game.

Yet even here in this highly non representative environment nearly half the people concerned voted AGAINST Necromancy nets.

Now I realize that people who couldn't figure out how to game well enough to do bestiary are also not going to be able to logically infer the implications of that, but thankfully my comments aren't directed at you.

You may very well be right that GGG is now dead set on appeasing reddit at the cost of dumbing the game down to one button=two screens explode level, I suspect you are right, if that gives you satisfaction well enjoy it while it lasts. Some day you'll be a fan of a game that is amazing for 3 years and then the lead designer sells out for more money and the game you loved gets shit on by people who suck at games.

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JCOH35 написал:

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alhazred70 написал:

I know there are a bunch of people that can't press more than one button slow down for a moment or game their way out of a tic tac toe problem that HATE bestiary but its an optional feature you can choose to ignore that is fun for probably the vast bulk of the more casual slower POE players (literally 70-80% of the playerbase AKA the people who aren't angry posting here every day).

Please keep Bestiary its a fun mechanic for people who can game and relish gaming. More importantly its an island of at least semi-determinisitic farming opportunities in a game that has entirely too few of those.

Signed
-one of the non vocal majority

Again, for you delusional few, the REAL vocal minority GGG has already announced that the league was a poor idea and horribly recieved and 3.3 will be the exact opposite.

At this point with the game developers themselves saying its not what people wanted how do you continue to say its what people want AND call us the vocal minority.

News flash, 98% of reddit and the official forums for a 2 month span is NOT the minority. Im glad you like the league, you and a small amount of people do. For those of you that do, there are about 45 different versions of pokemon you can play, or monster hunter, or digimon. For the rest of us, the MAJORITY, we are here to play an ARPG, so 3.3 returns us to you know, the actual genre of the game.

Honestly snap out of it, this vocal minority BS. Read the 3.3 announcement people, the devs themselves are telling you they screwed the pooch on this league, what are you arguing at this point.

That is what you took from this post?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2128783

Your hatred of Bestiary may be impacting your reading skills man, wow. Added link to make it easy for others to verify the accuracy of your statement.

Imo is not bad if they added it once the beta test ends. As long as it's skippable content and you don't need to carry nets around it'll be fine.

"When designing 3.3.0's league, we wanted to reinforce the core of what makes Path of Exile fun to play: killing monsters, gaining experience and earning items in every area you enter."

Translation: as opposed to the current league which is not fun to play

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to plainly see what the philosphy for 3.3 is, lets take beastiry and do everything the exact opposite.

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JCOH35 написал:

"When designing 3.3.0's league, we wanted to reinforce the core of what makes Path of Exile fun to play: killing monsters, gaining experience and earning items in every area you enter."

Translation: as opposed to the current league which is not fun to play

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to plainly see what the philosphy for 3.3 is, lets take beastiry and do everything the exact opposite.

That’s quite a leap. You do understand what they mean by core right? Or do you think they are going to remove supporting elements of the game which also make it playable and enjoyable but are not part of the core parts of an ARPG.

Why are they still working to improve Bestiary in ways that are not insignificant, also in the same announcement. Especially when league is not far from over. Doesn’t take a “rocket scientist” to make a leap on that as well.

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JCOH35 написал:

"When designing 3.3.0's league, we wanted to reinforce the core of what makes Path of Exile fun to play: killing monsters, gaining experience and earning items in every area you enter."

Translation: as opposed to the current league which is not fun to play

Doesnt take a rocket scientist to plainly see what the philosphy for 3.3 is, lets take beastiry and do everything the exact opposite.

Can we quit with the hyperbole, here?

I get that the league was underwhelming but i'm pretty sure all of you were still enjoying the "core" that Chris is talking about while you were playing it.

Beast crafting and monster catching is unimpressive in its current implementation but it's getting annoying listening to people act like it ruined the experience for them.

Jeez.

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casper0010 написал:

You don't need to partake in anything related to bestiary except the occasional tougher mob...why NOT include it for those that would enjoy?

+1

first league i skip, been playing since talisman, this stupid league is just a dumpster on fire. jeez

Edit: "When designing 3.3.0's league, we wanted to reinforce the core of what makes Path of Exile fun to play: killing monsters, gaining experience and earning items in every area you enter."


lol, took YEARS for ggg to realize that in an ARPG people like killing stuff and getting loot LMAO