[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Mistletoes написал:
@Mecielle and to anyone else, how does the 10% chance to Intimidate Enemies on Hit fare versus Unwavering Crusade node? I just hit it on my Lethal Pride along with a take 10% reduced enemy critical strike damage which is nice.

If the DPS loss is neglible I might just drop it and pick up Time of Need...


Well if you have another source for intimidate, all the node does is give your crawler 30% increased damage and 15% increased attack speed. Which is absolutely not enough to justify using it over Time of Need in my opinion.

And the intimidate on hit from lethal pride is enough to intimidate every enemy that counts. Like bosses obviously, or harder rares. And because of EE you try to aim at those with your Ball Lightning anyways.

I mean, test it for yourself. If you feel different about it, it only takes 10 regret orbs to switch back.

For me the impact of getting intimidate on hit on my Lethal pride was of course bigger, because I haven't been using Unwavering Crusade in a long time because even with losing thee Intimidate I valued Time of Need higher.
Последняя редакция: Mecielle#3021. Время: 5 янв. 2020 г., 23:05:32
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hitmantb написал:

Wow, 24K energy shield with Circle of Nostalgia, I know you are using helmet enchant and discipline but . . . still.

Your belt is 2000 energy shield over a 15% Cyclopean Coil. You have max spell block without flasking. I know we tried to go fancy with immune to ignite/chill/freeze/shock, but sometimes there is no replacement for 4000 extra energy shield and max spell block . . . Maybe the classic version is not so bad after all.

2000 of your energy shield is from Discipline and Helmet enchant. I think the elemental ailment immune version can get to 20K energy shield with the helmet enchant. Being able to use another 35% aura is so incredible. You can switch to Purity of Ice against Aul for example.

Just curious how did you get to 100? Did you have to stop doing Sirus? I can deathless it, I just don't know if I can afford even one death at level 99. CTSabba is a streamer so he has to entertain his audience with max difficulty contents. Did you have to dial back on any map mod, metamorph etc?

League is still long, would love to see you compete in deep delves! There is no reason we should lose to anyone except one shot one kill both way builds, we are currently #4 in presentation solo delve past 800, would love to see us continue to climb:

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds?mindepthsolo=800


Mostly Pure Chayula breachstones, i can easly kill 6man Chayula with 0% risk of dying so it was profitable for me. I can do deathles Sirus 8 with no problems at all, just make sure to properly manage storms, can face tank anything else. I only skipped no regen maps, mostly because switching to mana flask is harder then scouring.

At the moment im aiming for +1 skill corrupt, and 4% mana reservation on 4 jewels so i can get one more point back on the skill tree. My aim for this build is 25k es with atleast 8M+ Shaper dps, potential is there for sure.
Alright so after even more dropping money into this I was able to run a 4th aura (blood and sand) without having the herald of agony helmet enchant. Once I get that I'm pretty sure I'll be able to switch to Discipline since I'm only 5% short as of right now. I might even be able to take away a point or two into reserved mana nodes. Here's my gear for people wondering.



I still have to get a properly colored body but I'll be saving up my money for that now since I just spent a ton getting all of this set up. Keep in mind I'm only level 92 so I've got a ton more points to dump into this build as well but so far I'm sitting at just about 5.1m dps and ~11.5k ES. The rest of my points will go into getting my ES up probably. I don't think damage will be much of an issue from here on out.

Of course if anyone has any advice on where to go from here, I'm all ears. There's not a ton left to tweak though I don't think until the really big stuff and the helmet mod. (PS just ignore my Flesh & Stone and Skitterbot gems lol. Figured why buy them when I'm so close to just leveling them up).
Последняя редакция: Mythrol1#2691. Время: 5 янв. 2020 г., 23:29:01
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Mythrol1 написал:
Alright so after even more dropping money into this I was able to run a 4th aura (blood and sand) without having the herald of agony helmet enchant. Once I get that I'm pretty sure I'll be able to switch to Discipline since I'm only 5% short as of right now. I might even be able to take away a point or two into reserved mana nodes. Here's my gear for people wondering.



I still have to get a properly colored body but I'll be saving up my money for that now since I just spent a ton getting all of this set up. Keep in mind I'm only level 92 so I've got a ton more points to dump into this build as well but so far I'm sitting at just about 5.1m dps and ~11.5k ES. The rest of my points will go into getting my ES up probably. I don't think damage will be much of an issue from here on out.

Of course if anyone has any advice on where to go from here, I'm all ears. There's not a ton left to tweak though I don't think until the really big stuff and the helmet mod. (PS just ignore my Flesh & Stone and Skitterbot gems lol. Figured why buy them when I'm so close to just leveling them up).


Wow, how many corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels do you have?

It is ridiculous to run Hatred/Flesh and Stone/Skitter Bot auras WITHOUT helmet enchant. This is crazy stuff. Too bad there are no more OP auras/sockets left. If you do get the helmet enchant you can free up passive points, double curse etc . . .

I tried mix in haste, pride etc and the damage increase is too small.

I think answer is 4 corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels with conqueror's efficiency, charisma anointment, corrupted glove and all the trimmings, 6 if you run watcher's eye . . .

We are taking this build to ridiculous heights. I don't think anyone ever expected Herald of Agony, a super expensive skill to be ran with this many OP auras, on a class with every defensive layer in the game AND the highest hp/armor.
Последняя редакция: hitmantb#6251. Время: 5 янв. 2020 г., 23:43:05
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hitmantb написал:

Wow, how many corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels do you have?

It is ridiculous to run Hatred/Flesh and Stone/Skitter Bot auras WITHOUT helmet enchant. This is crazy stuff. Too bad there are no more OP auras/sockets left. If you do get the helmet enchant you can free up passive points, double curse etc . . .

I tried mix in haste, pride etc and the damage increase is too small.


Just two corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels. The Golden Rule & Conqueror's Efficiency. I also have a max roll on my CoN and the usual enlight 5, charisma, etc. But, I WAS actually able to get there without the helmet enchant. Now I'll probably spend some time running lab to see if I can't get it.

Of course my endgame will be to get that correctly colored body, get Watcher's Eye AND ALSO figure out where I can put clarity while also running all my other auras. I'm scared the actual option is get a socketed ring but omg I can't even imagine the headache in trying to get capped res on a socketed ring while keeping everything else.

My actual numbers for my mana reserved with my listed gear and the two jewels / charisma / etc is: HOA 25%, Hatred 32%, Skitterbots 23%, Flesh & Stone 19%. Leaves me exactly 1% mana.
Последняя редакция: Mythrol1#2691. Время: 5 янв. 2020 г., 23:56:16
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Mythrol1 написал:
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hitmantb написал:

Wow, how many corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels do you have?

It is ridiculous to run Hatred/Flesh and Stone/Skitter Bot auras WITHOUT helmet enchant. This is crazy stuff. Too bad there are no more OP auras/sockets left. If you do get the helmet enchant you can free up passive points, double curse etc . . .

I tried mix in haste, pride etc and the damage increase is too small.


Just two corrupted -1% mana reservation jewels. The Golden Rule & Conqueror's Efficiency. I also have a max roll on my CoN and the usual enlight 5, charisma, etc. But, I WAS actually able to get there without the helmet enchant. Now I'll probably spend some time running lab to see if I can't get it.

Of course my endgame will be to get that correctly colored body, get Watcher's Eye AND ALSO figure out where I can put clarity while also running all my other auras. I'm scared the actual option is get a socketed ring but omg I can't even imagine the headache in trying to get capped res on a socketed ring while keeping everything else.

My actual numbers for my mana reserved with my listed gear and the two jewels / charisma / etc is: HOA 25%, Hatred 32%, Skitterbots 23%, Flesh & Stone 19%. Leaves me exactly 1% mana.


You are totally right. If you had even 1% less roll on Circle of Nostalgia, you would not be able to do this. Literally every single thing is needed. Incredible job, hopefully you get that watcher. I think increased duration is the easiest support gem to drop, until you figure out a way to get 150% resistance on unset ring :)

Added this to the mana reservation section. Basically anyone lucky enough to have every mana reservation item in the book can do hatred/skitterbot/flesh and stone WITHOUT helmet enchant. Herald of Agony OR Hatred mana reservation enchant will free up a lot of options.

It is incredibly fitting that the mana guardian build's true power is all about mana, both getting more mana and reducing mana reservation cost to squeeze in more OP auras. And it is super satisfying too.
Последняя редакция: hitmantb#6251. Время: 6 янв. 2020 г., 00:14:41
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Mythrol1 написал:

Of course my endgame will be to get that correctly colored body, get Watcher's Eye AND ALSO figure out where I can put clarity while also running all my other auras. I'm scared the actual option is get a socketed ring but omg I can't even imagine the headache in trying to get capped res on a socketed ring while keeping everything else.


Well, in your endgame you probably won't be wearing a Cyclopian Coil as a Hunter Heavy Belt or a Hunter Stygian Vise is orders of magnitudes better. So you have one suffix there that will be resists. The others being flat str and % attributes. While not a lot, that should make it easier to find or make an Unset Ring to cap resists. Even crafted it is 2x20% resistance after all. So if you have an Unset Ring with the same stats as your current ring, you can craft the lost resists from the ring implicits and be done. Just saying, it won't be that big of a problem.

Other thing that could help a little bit would be a CoN with resist implicit.
Последняя редакция: Mecielle#3021. Время: 6 янв. 2020 г., 00:21:15
Anyone playing that could offer me stoneskin flayers desecrate? :) Having a hard time finding it in the delve.

Edit : TY Everyone! :D
Последняя редакция: julien329#6119. Время: 6 янв. 2020 г., 00:27:55
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hitmantb написал:

You are totally right. If you had even 1% less roll on Circle of Nostalgia, you would not be able to do this. Literally every single thing is needed. Incredible job, hopefully you get that watcher. I think increased duration is the easiest support gem to drop, until you figure out a way to get 150% resistance on unset ring :)

Added this to the mana reservation section. Basically anyone lucky enough to have every mana reservation item in the book can do hatred/skitterbot/flesh and stone WITHOUT helmet enchant. Herald of Agony OR Hatred mana reservation enchant will free up a lot of options.

It is incredibly fitting that the mana guardian build's true power is all about mana, both getting more mana and reducing mana reservation cost to squeeze in more OP auras. And it is super satisfying too.


Some say lucky, I would say stupid enough to drop a ton of ex's on getting near perfect rolls. I made my own wand, both corrupted jewels (along with a corrupted blood one as well), my neck / ring / boots, dropped the divines to get capped roll on CoN. I suppose when you take into account how many items I rolled and annu'ed then yeah I was probably lucky too. Heck even the fire res roll on my Memory vault had to be capped just so I could cap my fire res without taking a suboptimal piece of gear.

You hit the nail on the head though. It does feel SUPER rewarding to be able to squeeze every little bit out of this build while trying to also balance everything out. This league has been super fun.
@hitmantb: In the "High priority Upgrades" section under the Lethal Pride you listed good notable modifiers. You should add "chance to intimidate on hit" as the best one to land ;)

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