[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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NSUCK написал:

I believe its possible to get +2 on this correct? I think the mod pool has str/int/dex gems as well.

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Leptomeninges написал:

This is actually a really important point that I think may get missed. Although the guide indicates a 2g2r2b as the optimal socket colors, the dps differential between that and a 4g2r or 4g1r1b is small while the price differential is enormous. Barring big spenders, there will likely always be better uses for your exalts than buying "optimal" colors.

On top of that, it is *much* easier to work skitterbots into your mana pool with more greens which tend to be less mana expensive. Personally, I think the worst of all worlds is a 2g/2r/2b as you end up with stuff like minion speed (130), minion damage (130), and damage on full life (130).

Compare this with a 4g2r or 4g1r1b where you substitute things like vile toxins (120), or vicious projectiles (120). For budget players a 4g2r or a 4g1r1b is probably the best choice.

tldr: buy a 2+ skills chest with four green sockets, one red and final socket either red or blue if possible.

Might actually be worth discussing this in the OP.

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obonut написал:

Some thoughts about this build:

Level 1-68
Leveling this build with 4L bow gems with Agony was quite painful for me. The crawler was doing great dps but i didn't find leveling smooth and often died a few times on bosses. Probably not the best idea to use blast rain as the main skill i think!

68+
Once you have the minimum required gear to start from the excellent guide by hitmantb.

I was completely floored, even at my current level I'm facetanking T16 corrupt map bosses (including the metamorph boss) without a Rumi's and I didn't even take Bastian of Hope. It really makes my previous bladestorm 79 block gladiator look like a joke with higher defence and MUCH more dps coming from the mana guardian build.

My ES shield has never gone below 50% ever so far, losing a few hundred most of the time then it just fills back up again after a few seconds. As long as you keep molten shell up, also using the vaal version when doing meta bosses.


Most of my gems are only 18 now and have not had improved quality as yet. I'm sitting on 10.2k ES, running flesh and sand/hatred/precision/HOAG. Can't get enough for skitterbots.

My question is, whats my next logical upgrade? One thing that I haven't taken advantage of is onslaught from ascendency for the crawler since I've only got 3 spectres, I need raise minion to be lvl 25 at least for this but I'm going to hit 24 (20 + 3 + 1). Thinking maybe a +2 wand for this?

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hitmantb написал:

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Covenant написал:

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hitmantb написал:

I have four carnage chieftains with clarity 15, no blood magic, minion life, works very consistently with three frenzy charges.

Spirit offering every 4 seconds is very strong, keeps them alive in 90% of the contents. For other 10% use stoneskin frayers.

I wouldn't use AG with anything more than kingmaker and all defensive gear with this build. Again, use him for 90% content, other 10% unsummon him.

Yeah, limited testing shows the clarity level does matter. Broke down and got a level 4 Enlighten.

Level 1-2 clarity frenzy charges fall off for long periods, even with 4 carnage chieftains.

Level 13+ (which Act 1 Nessa sells conveniently) Uptime is well over 90%. And that's mostly when it falls off when nothing is close enough to yell/mass frenzy at. Worth considering depending on mana situation.

Related: Tropical Island has Blood Progenitors. They also have mass frenzy, and poedb.tw.xyz says they have over twice the health and much better cold/lightning resist. Assuming google translate got it right. But you can't get them anytime for free in act 7. I'll test them out sometime tonight. I can't find mana totals for any of these.

Holy cow, if this works, it will be a massive improvement for the build outside of maybe a tiny percentage of contents!

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Mecielle написал:

Also not sure how it would improve the build for everything except a tiny percentage contents... I would say it only improves the build for a tiny percentage of content. Because even if it were useable, which it isn't as its the map boss, it won't survive Sirus, Uber Elder or deep delves, which is the focus of the build.

But maybe thats just me. The clear speed of the build is abysmal, and all the possible improvements to it in the world won't make it anything but a very slow build. So I tend to disregard any improvements focused on that and only go for making it more viable against the end-game and deep delves.

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Mecielle написал:

Also not sure how it would improve the build for everything except a tiny percentage contents... I would say it only improves the build for a tiny percentage of content. Because even if it were useable, which it isn't as its the map boss, it won't survive Sirus, Uber Elder or deep delves, which is the focus of the build.

But maybe thats just me. The clear speed of the build is abysmal, and all the possible improvements to it in the world won't make it anything but a very slow build. So I tend to disregard any improvements focused on that and only go for making it more viable against the end-game and deep delves.

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Can anyone answer this? I'd like to know asap

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crazypearce написал:

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Mecielle написал:

Also not sure how it would improve the build for everything except a tiny percentage contents... I would say it only improves the build for a tiny percentage of content. Because even if it were useable, which it isn't as its the map boss, it won't survive Sirus, Uber Elder or deep delves, which is the focus of the build.

But maybe thats just me. The clear speed of the build is abysmal, and all the possible improvements to it in the world won't make it anything but a very slow build. So I tend to disregard any improvements focused on that and only go for making it more viable against the end-game and deep delves.

i think 99% of people are using this for everything. mapping and bossing. you can play juiced t16s on awakener lvl 8 without worrying about dying to metamorphs. you are doing the build dirty by saying it's abysmal because it's really not. it's not an autobomber or iceshot deadeye, etc, but for most people who only play one character at a time this is a perfect jack of all trades build that can do everything

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Mecielle написал:

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crazypearce написал:

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Mecielle написал:

Also not sure how it would improve the build for everything except a tiny percentage contents... I would say it only improves the build for a tiny percentage of content. Because even if it were useable, which it isn't as its the map boss, it won't survive Sirus, Uber Elder or deep delves, which is the focus of the build.

But maybe thats just me. The clear speed of the build is abysmal, and all the possible improvements to it in the world won't make it anything but a very slow build. So I tend to disregard any improvements focused on that and only go for making it more viable against the end-game and deep delves.

i think 99% of people are using this for everything. mapping and bossing. you can play juiced t16s on awakener lvl 8 without worrying about dying to metamorphs. you are doing the build dirty by saying it's abysmal because it's really not. it's not an autobomber or iceshot deadeye, etc, but for most people who only play one character at a time this is a perfect jack of all trades build that can do everything

I did NOT say it is abysmal. I said its clear speed is abysmal. Which is a simple truth noone here can deny.

I absolutely love the build, else I would not play it for 3 weeks now, sink countless exalts in it or answer like 500 questions here and post new ways to min-max it.

In the future don't pick a word from a comment and focus on it. Instead keep the context the word was used in...