3.24.2 Patch Notes

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AkumaNoTsubasa написал:

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Echothesis написал:

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zombies99didnothingwrong написал:

Delete party mf bonus and 20% or smth chance for capture additional beasts and corpses, people do twinks just for afk on maps and get free beasts and corpses, its kinda cringe
MF IS RUDIMENT (BAD)

Been saying this since day 1 of trying party in this game. One doesn't need to play illustration leagues to realize party bonuses are violating fair play, and lead to meme interactions like MF culler or these new afk leechers.

Every arpg uses separate loot generation in party for every party member, using that member's own stats, if any. But of course our dear poe has to follow special path and invent different system they cannot balance, but keep trying, bloating it with changes that plug one hole and create 2 more holes :)

How do you AFK leech exp and beasts?
You have to stand almost on top of the beast to have your 20% chance to get it and exp reach is about 1.5 screens

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Echothesis написал:

By afk leechers I meant corpses. You can afk at the start of the map with naked character, and after others clear the map, you run over it and collect every corpse. Heard how it works from a friend who plays leagues and whose opinion I trust. No idea about beasts/exp, likely it is limited by replication radius like you said.

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MLGonthorian написал:

How are these people asking for mf & party play to be removed real? Is this something a streamer is pushing or something? What level-headed person would want to remove something actually good from the game? No one answered previously when I asked.

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natural183 написал:

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MLGonthorian написал:

How are these people asking for mf & party play to be removed real? Is this something a streamer is pushing or something? What level-headed person would want to remove something actually good from the game? No one answered previously when I asked.

Party play with aurabots and such oversimplifies gameplay compared to the struggles of a solo player who has to build dmg and defence simultaneously. Problem became more noticeable with the introduction of T17 maps.

For this simplified gameplay - only follow each other around, no need to dodge anything, no need to worry about HH buffs and such - they get bonus that goes far beyond something that would just make party coordination worthwhile. They get insane multiplier that, when combined with something that can be abused, leads to profits that leaves solo players far behind. If 6-party are real people, they also loot faster than solo MF player. If it's multiboxing, cheater just reaps the profits alone, having advantage just because of having spare PC and twink setup.

I've heard many people saying things like "but man I played with 2 friends and we didn't shower in mirrors at all". Economy is wrecked not buy average joes who managed to fit a Ventor's Gamble in their build or just play with aurabot friend. When it's done _effectively_ , using the current best abuse strategy, dedicated traders (who are often bots btw), you have MASSIVE disparity between someone who is solo, MF or not, and party play.

To make things worse, these teams are more likely to be a group of nolifers, while solo players are more likely to be people with jobs. So you have parties who kill monsters all day, trading it all via trader or bot, doing that much more effectively than solo player, have loot multipliers (not additive with map/gear quant, multiplicative!) on top of that - and they affect all the economy and prices for people who just come to play after job. This is not fair.

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Valsacar написал:

And then those people have to split everything with 5 or more players. They don't really make any more than a solo person with equal skill set and time can do.

What you are complaining about isn't MF or party play, but people that are better than you and have more time to play.