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The only response needed for those who complain about this being casual-catering:
Use FFA
This change in no way affects your gameplay experience even a miniscule if you oppose it.
Последняя редакция: Aurinax87#7082. Время: 24 мая 2013 г., 15:59:06
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СообщениеAurinax87#708224 мая 2013 г., 15:58:29
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mushioov написал:
Ultra-Dislike.
Very disappointed that you gave in for the casuals. Very, very disappointed.
Won't be playing for a week now to boycott this decision. (Not that anyone cares, but still)
Is this the start of the slippery slope for GGG that they've been warned about? Only time will tell...
oh for sure it is. I already have torch light 2, i dont need more generic arpg. Poe was different, not so much anymore, I think this change to be more like other games really sets PoE back and makes the problems of the game become more glaring.
just look at many of the responses from people supporting this:
'great change...now we change (xp loss on death/drop rates/some other core system)'.
Time WILL tell, but the problem wont (as you pointed out) its just like d3 and TL2, Nobody is going to complain about the loot system when every public game uses the 5 min timer. Its everything else that comes from this balance change - don’t need to watch what falls? don’t need to position yourself? don’t need to compete? everything else will seem more repetitive and boring. THAT is what they will complain about, along with everything else they already are.
No more gentleman’s agreements necessary? no more need to be a gentleman.
No need to make friends and travel with the same people to earn their trust? Boring.
No need to earn your way when you can just follow the leader from a screen or two behind and still get your loot? Easy mode.
Well said.
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Сообщениеterrorist#725524 мая 2013 г., 15:59:26
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Time WILL tell, but the problem wont (as you pointed out) its just like d3 and TL2, Nobody is going to complain about the loot system when every public game uses the 5 min timer. Its everything else that comes from this balance change - don’t need to watch what falls? don’t need to position yourself? don’t need to compete? everything else will seem more repetitive and boring. THAT is what they will complain about, along with everything else they already are.
No more gentleman’s agreements necessary? no more need to be a gentleman.
No need to make friends and travel with the same people to earn their trust? Boring.
No need to earn your way when you can just follow the leader from a screen or two behind and still get your loot? Easy mode.
IMO loot tension = false sense of difficulty. So they remove the mechanic and can make the actual multiplayer game harder.
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Сообщениеwrathmar#445624 мая 2013 г., 15:59:48
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Aurinax87 написал:
The only response needed for those who complain about this being casual-catering:
Use FFA
This change in no way affects your gameplay experience even a miniscule if you oppose it.
This^. TY GGG
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СообщениеlVlage#341324 мая 2013 г., 16:02:16Забанен
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The complaints are legit, the 'casuals' won't let them steal loot = less loot for the FFA fans.
I like the options very much; I might even start playing with strangers again, meet more people, make new friends etc. And that's one of the important things that keeps you playing.
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Сообщениеwiggin#589624 мая 2013 г., 16:04:31
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Thank god, the party system has been horrible for a while now. I know I know beta, but it's good to see a substantial element of the game get some due love.
It'd be nice though if some day the allocation itself get's improved, by distributing gear more randomly and not just who ever kills the most. A class distribution system would be nice too, where it logs your most used skills for that character and gives you item types that work for that build. Maybe a bit complex but I think it'd be nice if rangers got their bows and mages got their wands.
Anyways this patch definetely helps a lot
Thank you GGG
Oh yes and FFA all the way!!
Последняя редакция: psythos#5874. Время: 24 мая 2013 г., 16:12:31
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Сообщениеpsythos#587424 мая 2013 г., 16:05:42
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Glad everybody has options now, although I thought the way it was was just fine. I'll be trying ffa though, bringing back the glory days of D2!
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mushioov написал:
Ultra-Dislike.
Very disappointed that you gave in for the casuals. Very, very disappointed.
Won't be playing for a week now to boycott this decision. (Not that anyone cares, but still)
Is this the start of the slippery slope for GGG that they've been warned about? Only time will tell...
Oh no! Now people you dont even want to play with can play the game the way they want to play it! Is your epeen smaller now?
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СообщениеBRavich#439724 мая 2013 г., 16:08:09
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yukatree написал:
too little too late, i think u messed the game up long ago, no one asked for the change yet u stupidly enforced it upon everyone and now ur trying to go partly back on what you did well its not enough. Why o why u got rid of names i will never know, you lost sooo many players because of it and how cocky u were in implementing it.
It's....BETA...they are gonna try things, experiment, find what works, what doesn't.
The release of the game is not yet posted, maybe they lost players, but it'll have a loyal following for a long time.
As long as GGG remarkets it correctly upon it's official release, things should be fine. As of right now we are the guinea pigs.
In the end the game will be better for it as well. I'm all for people complaining on the forums as it only sets to improve the game (hopefully) over time.
All in all, i've seen nothing but huge milestone improvements since a year ago when I first started playing.
Cheers
Последняя редакция: psythos#5874. Время: 24 мая 2013 г., 16:19:27
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Сообщениеpsythos#587424 мая 2013 г., 16:16:18
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yukatree написал:
too little too late, i think u messed the game up long ago, no one asked for the change yet u stupidly enforced it upon everyone and now ur trying to go partly back on what you did well its not enough. Why o why u got rid of names i will never know, you lost sooo many players because of it and how cocky u were in implementing it.
holy fuck ur stupid.
I second that, it takes a large proportion of stupidity to even come up that sort of rambling about something no one gives a single fuck, like loot naming.
Overall I'm pleased with this change, and I'll be creating public parties once again, FFA only tho, I want those ranged silly beans to feel the heat coming out dem titty bitches too.
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Joramm 73 Templar | Ele cleaver - Hardcore (idling) Последняя редакция: Ntk#5335. Время: 24 мая 2013 г., 16:40:17
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СообщениеNtk#533524 мая 2013 г., 16:38:21
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