Is poe the real ah simulator more than what d3 was ?

Yeah you can play selffound if you want , but then your character gonna suck ( for most ) . Or you use extremely long time to get your character good ( again for most ) . Not only do you loose xp/hour but also orbs/hour for slow kill speed . So in poe it's a dumb move to not use poetrade ( again for most ok ).

Rush through dried lake , do the chaos recipe , and then go and buy what you need . Good items don't drop in this game at all so you have to . The monsters in this game hit pretty hard so again you need good gear = poetrade visit . ( when monsters are so overtuned in dps , it also kills build diversity , but thats another topic ) .

D3 implemented a smart drop system and it worked better to play selffound with this ( just to be mentioned ) .

I have still never had the experience to find a item in this game that i jump out of my chair . Most likely never going to happen either with the itemization of poe .

I played d3 before i played poe and good stuff you could find every day or every week ( whatever it was often ). Imo this was a bit too much and d3 is not very complex and interesting ( though it has been improved ) . But in poe maybe you find a good item in a year or something , this is not fun imo . I think the drop rates of good stuff should be boosted in poe . i dont mean like d3 was , but finding cool items IN A GAME THAT IS ALL ABOUT ITEMS should not be nonexistent like it is atm ( has always been i believe ) .

Maybe make the itemization better could work . As i said the smartdrop system of d3 is not bad . Higher chance for a item to roll stats that works with the item ( smartdrop ). A better itemization = less dependent of a ah . D3 made a better itemization with their game and could then remove the ah . Though this wasn't the only reason for them to remove it . Personally i didn't use the ah in d3 as much as in poe , nowhere near actually .

Ask yourself how fun it is to pick up yellow items and you know its only going to be some alteration orbs and shards from it . Ask yourself when you hear the cool sound of a unique dropping and you're not exited about it anymore because you know its some alch shards only .

Good stuff drops like crazy in d3 , this is not what i ask for ( want ) , but i dont want it like poe either where its absolutely no items at all ( never ever ) .

So in the end poe is perhaps the real ah simulator game , even moe than d3 was . In d3 you actually found your own gear . the ah was more for the min-maxing of your build ( and for some players flipping , lol like its not happening in poe aswell ) .

Thanks for reading this wall of text :) have a nice day guys

I remember making 400$ within an hour in d3

good fucking times.

I actualy enjoy trading since they implemented public stash tabs.

I find gear worth 15c, i trade for 15c, I buy stuff I want for 15c.

Its a good system, i dont see the problem with that.

Way better than trading for gold or god forbid real money.

The only problem i see is that poe.trade is not part of the main game as it should be.

GGG said for over a year now there will be improvements made to the trading system, which can only mean some kind of auctionhouse or itemsearch mechanic.

If they would implement their own version of poe trade into the game, that would be awesome.

The D3 model failed so hard because of RMT and gold bound trading, which allowed for massive botting and bug abusing/glitches, afk farming and so on and the fact that items and classes in D3 are so limited.
Everyone was looking for the exact same stuff.

In POE there is so much diversity, it would work out much better.
Also there is less cheating/botting and stuff like that goin on, because there is no gold and there is only 1 endgame difficulty.

Yes big time with way more scams in POE.

Try and list stuff low at AH to sucker noobs to list low too... never worked because item bought instantly.

Here ppl will list items super low with no intention of selling will be "AFK" and not actually sell item and bait noobs to list comparable to thier item then POE.TRADE auto alerts them to snap up that noobs items.

Then there is time factor spent trading with AFKs, chatting, searching. Real AH had auto search to compare comparable items. Real AH had AFK buyouts. So then you could actually play game instead of trading 24/7

Here all we do is spend time trading relative to AH3.

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Devonor написал:

Yeah you can play selffound if you want , but then your character gonna suck ( for most ) . Or you use extremely long time to get your character good ( again for most ) . Not only do you loose xp/hour but also orbs/hour for slow kill speed . So in poe it's a dumb move to not use poetrade ( again for most ok ).

You're looking at it from a narrow perspective. Some people play self-found because they enjoy the challenge. It's not always about getting the best gear at any given moment. And there are plenty of builds that don't need expensive gear. So no, characters won't "suck" if they play self-found, it will just be a different build and possibly with different goals.

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Devonor написал:

I think the drop rates of good stuff should be boosted in poe . i dont mean like d3 was , but finding cool items IN A GAME THAT IS ALL ABOUT ITEMS should not be nonexistent like it is atm ( has always been i believe ) .

The game isn't "all about items". The game is all about builds, with stats and items becoming less important. Yet if all you're interested in is end-game, post level 80-something, then yes, it's all about the items and their stats. You'll find that the majority of players don't play exclusively end-game: they try different builds, play in each new league, etc.

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Devonor написал:

Ask yourself how fun it is to pick up yellow items and you know its only going to be some alteration orbs and shards from it . Ask yourself when you hear the cool sound of a unique dropping and you're not exited about it anymore because you know its some alch shards only .

Good stuff drops like crazy in d3 , this is not what i ask for ( want ) , but i dont want it like poe either where its absolutely no items at all ( never ever ) .

So in the end poe is perhaps the real ah simulator game

The progression is far more important. Vendor trashing and selling on poe.trade is for end-game refinement. You don't need thousands of alchs, fusings, and chrome to enjoy PoE. Yet you can still get thousands of each by just playing, vendor trashing, and enjoying the game without trading at all.

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I_NO написал:

I remember making 400$ within an hour in d3

good fucking times.

I never have to buy another game out of my own pocket thanks to D3. Other peoples money still sitting in my d3 pay pal over 2 years later.

Idunno where people go with this AH simulator when you pubstomped PoE so hard with no items that 2.4 buffed everyones hp and other stuff by a ton so we wouldn't snooze over the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyedECtiVVg

This is PoE if you aren't terribad to game but have very good comprehension/brain to understand it.

Also D3 is the self-found glore game, which has nothing to do with D2. PoE is equivalent to D2 so if you liked D2 you knew exactly how was the game going to be like.

The game doesn't support a 100% "self found" life style, but you can get pretty far without trading and if you keep at it you can still be a top player. Some of the best players are 100% self found like havok and still top the ladders.

If you want the best things and grow in power fast without spending a lot of time, trade a little sometimes. It takes almost no time if you just want to target a few things you want.

I don't understand why people don't want to do things within reason if they just want to enjoy the game. I myself self-found until I hit level 80ish and then once in awhile trade (although I do sell) for specific things so I can get to 90 smoothly.

Just play the flavour of the league skill and spamm T14+ with gear worth an exalt. At the moment this is blade vortex or trapper bladefall. Both kill bosses in 1 second.

Idk about you but the game is just completely broken if you kill everything in 1 sec with an ex worth of gear and can just walk through the map.

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Sogolon написал:

Just play the flavour of the league skill and spamm T14+ with gear worth an exalt. At the moment this is blade vortex or trapper bladefall. Both kill bosses in 1 second.

Idk about you but the game is just completely broken if you kill everything in 1 sec with an ex worth of gear and can just walk through the map.

There always were such builds, and there always will be. It's just other build every league, but still there is at least 1 build that can do it.

It's actually very sad that in a game where trading is crucial the trading system is so horrid.

There is so damn much RNG in this game that I can't see anyone really enjoying playing self-found. There will be items needed for your build you'll never get.

So, there is trading. And it makes me pretty angry to see GGGs stance on trading. At one point they seem pretty fine with poe.trade. But on the other hand they are to lazy (or what ever) to implement something alike into the game.

I just don't see why GGG forces you to use so many 3rd party tools all the time. Or at least the game is completely unenjoyable without those tools (like acquisition, or poe_iteminfo ect). Now there seems to be premium stash tabs that get read into poe.trade directly. Though you still need a tool to show you online (unless you're on the ladder).

So why the * can't GGG provide some acceptable trading system by themselves? It's been soooooo long. Trading is so crucial. You pretty much have to trade. Then you're left running all those tools when instead GGG could just implement some damn system by themselves. -_-