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Monochromatic Orb:
An application of this orb on any item with gem slots, turns one gem slot, at random, white, or if the randomly chosen spot is white already, a random, non-white color.
Monochromatic Orbs do not drop. They are vendor recipe only. 1 chromatic orb + 40 scrolls of wisdom = 1 monochromatic orb.
There would be crafting recipes enabling multiple white slots to be added automatically, from 4 monochromatic orbs for 2 white slots to 1500 monochromatic orbs for 6.
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Infernal Orb
An application of this orb on any item with gem slots, turns on gem slot, at random, black, or if the randomly chosen spot is black already, a random, non-black color.
Black gem slots operate similarly to white gem slots, but the slotted gem must be corrupted, and as a bonus, is given +1 gem level.
Infernal Orbs also do not drop. Vendor recipe only. 1 Divine Orb + 40 portal scrolls = 1 Infernal Orb
The crafting recipes for infernal orbs would be similar to monochromatic orbs: 4 for two black slots up to 1500 for six.
Last bumped11 окт. 2021 г., 18:40:37
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СообщениеDreamwarden#738311 окт. 2021 г., 13:17:26
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Honestly, I don't see GGG implementing these in the near future. VERY cool ideas tho!
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СообщениеBaliqci#172111 окт. 2021 г., 13:38:38
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Your monochromatic orb is essentially how Vorici in Research works already, so I don't know that it's worth adding a new currency to the game.
Your infernal orb/black socket idea is interesting, but as you've conceived it is far too powerful. I would expect that the orb would ALSO have to corrupt the item and be much more expensive to obtain: 40 divines + 1 portal scroll is probably not expensive enough for how much power this gives caster builds.
Why caster builds specifically? Well, spells scale primarily through gem levels, so any remotely well built caster is already going to be using a corrupted lvl 21 gem. Giving them a level 22 version of that same gem for the price of a divine orb is more than a little game-breaking.
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Baliqci написал:
Honestly, I don't see GGG implementing these in the near future. VERY cool ideas tho!
not really.
Infernal orb is far too op compared to price for skills that scale well with level and useless for everybody else.
Just two divines and 80 portals to get lvl 22 gem from 21 and lvl 5 empower from level 4.
2 skill gem levels literally for free.
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate написал:
Your monochromatic orb is essentially how Vorici in Research works already, so I don't know that it's worth adding a new currency to the game.
Your infernal orb/black socket idea is interesting, but as you've conceived it is far too powerful. I would expect that the orb would ALSO have to corrupt the item and be much more expensive to obtain: 40 divines + 1 portal scroll is probably not expensive enough for how much power this gives caster builds.
Why caster builds specifically? Well, spells scale primarily through gem levels, so any remotely well built caster is already going to be using a corrupted lvl 21 gem. Giving them a level 22 version of that same gem for the price of a divine orb is more than a little game-breaking.
i would love the infernal orb thing if it was the other way around
+1 to gems but cant use corrupted and only works for active gems
the color cant be black socket though thats for abyss sockets
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Сообщениеciel289#722811 окт. 2021 г., 13:57:13
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karoollll2534 написал:
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Baliqci написал:
Honestly, I don't see GGG implementing these in the near future. VERY cool ideas tho!
not really.
Infernal orb is far too op compared to price for skills that scale well with level and useless for everybody else.
Just two divines and 80 portals to get lvl 22 gem from 21 and lvl 5 empower from level 4.
2 skill gem levels literally for free.
Free? A level 4 empower gem isn't free. Many level 21 gems also aren't free. A black socket isn't free either. It's 1 Divine Orb and 40 Portal Scrolls and it affects one gem slot. Now, you'd need 1500 Divine Orbs and 60,000 Portal Scrolls to make an item have +1 to all socketed corrupted gems. It's no easy feat to gather sufficient quantities of either, and if this recipe were to go live, Divine Orbs would go UP in price GUARANTEED. It's an endgame grind that may have some minor effect at lower levels, but it wouldn't break the game in any way.
Heck, a corrupted Tabula can do this and it would be much cheaper.
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СообщениеDreamwarden#738311 окт. 2021 г., 17:57:00
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Dreamwarden написал:
Free? A level 4 empower gem isn't free. Many level 21 gems also aren't free. A black socket isn't free either. It's 1 Divine Orb and 40 Portal Scrolls and it affects one gem slot. Now, you'd need 1500 Divine Orbs and 60,000 Portal Scrolls to make an item have +1 to all socketed corrupted gems. It's no easy feat to gather sufficient quantities of either, and if this recipe were to go live, Divine Orbs would go UP in price GUARANTEED. It's an endgame grind that may have some minor effect at lower levels, but it wouldn't break the game in any way.
Heck, a corrupted Tabula can do this and it would be much cheaper.
You're not getting it. Any caster build will use a lvl 21 spell gem. That's just a fact, it's reality, it's not up for discussion, it's how the game is played. So with or without your black socket idea, they're already using a lvl 21 gem. You don't get to include the cost of that gem in the cost to craft a black socket, because they already have it.
Your idea for black sockets makes the cost of going from lvl 21 to 22 - a HUGE damage increase for absolutely any spell gem - a single divine orb. And yes, I said a SINGLE divine orb, because you only have to hit one socket and then put your lvl 21 active gem into that socket, and you can greatly stack the odds in your favor by using Vorici first to have several white sockets on the item in question. And if you happen to get incredibly unlucky, and it chooses a green socket when you wanted it to choose blue? That's what Harvest crafting is for.
The extreme ease with which this gets you 10% more damage (ish, it depends on the spell) is worth FAR more than a divine orb.
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Dreamwarden написал:
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karoollll2534 написал:
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Baliqci написал:
Honestly, I don't see GGG implementing these in the near future. VERY cool ideas tho!
not really.
Infernal orb is far too op compared to price for skills that scale well with level and useless for everybody else.
Just two divines and 80 portals to get lvl 22 gem from 21 and lvl 5 empower from level 4.
2 skill gem levels literally for free.
Free? A level 4 empower gem isn't free. Many level 21 gems also aren't free. A black socket isn't free either. It's 1 Divine Orb and 40 Portal Scrolls and it affects one gem slot. Now, you'd need 1500 Divine Orbs and 60,000 Portal Scrolls to make an item have +1 to all socketed corrupted gems. It's no easy feat to gather sufficient quantities of either, and if this recipe were to go live, Divine Orbs would go UP in price GUARANTEED. It's an endgame grind that may have some minor effect at lower levels, but it wouldn't break the game in any way.
Heck, a corrupted Tabula can do this and it would be much cheaper.
using 2 +1level sockets would be more than enough to increase the dps of skills that scale with empower by 25%
there is no need to up all 6 sockets, a "normal" support gem going from 33% to 34% barely makes a difference
farming 30-60 divine orbs is easy when you know how to do it,taht would be enough to turn 1-3 sockets on every item that needs it to +1 level sockets
"a corrupted tabula can do it"
any corrupted body armor can do it,but you are forgetting something very important
you could corrupt an item with these sockets and would still add +1 to all the gems on top of it
pure powercreep for no good reason and we already have a big powercreep problem even after the nerfs in 3.15
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Сообщениеciel289#722811 окт. 2021 г., 18:15:55
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate написал:
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Dreamwarden написал:
Free? A level 4 empower gem isn't free. Many level 21 gems also aren't free. A black socket isn't free either. It's 1 Divine Orb and 40 Portal Scrolls and it affects one gem slot. Now, you'd need 1500 Divine Orbs and 60,000 Portal Scrolls to make an item have +1 to all socketed corrupted gems. It's no easy feat to gather sufficient quantities of either, and if this recipe were to go live, Divine Orbs would go UP in price GUARANTEED. It's an endgame grind that may have some minor effect at lower levels, but it wouldn't break the game in any way.
Heck, a corrupted Tabula can do this and it would be much cheaper.
You're not getting it. Any caster build will use a lvl 21 spell gem. That's just a fact, it's reality, it's not up for discussion, it's how the game is played. So with or without your black socket idea, they're already using a lvl 21 gem. You don't get to include the cost of that gem in the cost to craft a black socket, because they already have it.
Your idea for black sockets makes the cost of going from lvl 21 to 22 - a HUGE damage increase for absolutely any spell gem - a single divine orb. And yes, I said a SINGLE divine orb, because you only have to hit one socket and then put your lvl 21 active gem into that socket, and you can greatly stack the odds in your favor by using Vorici first to have several white sockets on the item in question. And if you happen to get incredibly unlucky, and it chooses a green socket when you wanted it to choose blue? That's what Harvest crafting is for.
The extreme ease with which this gets you 10% more damage (ish, it depends on the spell) is worth FAR more than a divine orb.
You'd need to add the black sockets BEFORE you corrupted the item, then you'd have to get the lucky corruption. It's not the most common implicit. It's a lot of investment that usually won't pay off, and might even bork your sockets completely.
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СообщениеDreamwarden#738311 окт. 2021 г., 18:29:09
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Dreamwarden написал:
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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate написал:
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Dreamwarden написал:
Free? A level 4 empower gem isn't free. Many level 21 gems also aren't free. A black socket isn't free either. It's 1 Divine Orb and 40 Portal Scrolls and it affects one gem slot. Now, you'd need 1500 Divine Orbs and 60,000 Portal Scrolls to make an item have +1 to all socketed corrupted gems. It's no easy feat to gather sufficient quantities of either, and if this recipe were to go live, Divine Orbs would go UP in price GUARANTEED. It's an endgame grind that may have some minor effect at lower levels, but it wouldn't break the game in any way.
Heck, a corrupted Tabula can do this and it would be much cheaper.
You're not getting it. Any caster build will use a lvl 21 spell gem. That's just a fact, it's reality, it's not up for discussion, it's how the game is played. So with or without your black socket idea, they're already using a lvl 21 gem. You don't get to include the cost of that gem in the cost to craft a black socket, because they already have it.
Your idea for black sockets makes the cost of going from lvl 21 to 22 - a HUGE damage increase for absolutely any spell gem - a single divine orb. And yes, I said a SINGLE divine orb, because you only have to hit one socket and then put your lvl 21 active gem into that socket, and you can greatly stack the odds in your favor by using Vorici first to have several white sockets on the item in question. And if you happen to get incredibly unlucky, and it chooses a green socket when you wanted it to choose blue? That's what Harvest crafting is for.
The extreme ease with which this gets you 10% more damage (ish, it depends on the spell) is worth FAR more than a divine orb.
You'd need to add the black sockets BEFORE you corrupted the item, then you'd have to get the lucky corruption. It's not the most common implicit. It's a lot of investment that usually won't pay off, and might even bork your sockets completely.
with alva temple double corruption the +level are very common
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Сообщениеciel289#722811 окт. 2021 г., 18:32:46
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