TFT in PoE2 - Unfair Advantage?

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rrogan17#2926 написал:

I'm curious as to why things like TFT are allowed to operate? I understand that it has been around for a while in PoE and many people use it there, but it does create somewhat of an unfair advantage over those using the in game trade. Not allowing everyone the same access to items is odd and I don't see why people would want this in their game?

With Async trade it is even less needed and I feel like if TFT were to be closed it would help the economy and provide other people with access to the same purchasing ability. I could also imagine that TFT opens the door for RMT, as it would be harder to moderate a channel like that, compared to people speaking over chat in game.

I don't even play trade until I migrate, if I even do, so it basically doesn't impact me, but it just seemed odd that a small % of the player-base has an advantage over others, in regards to the items available and cost of said items.

Just my thoughts as I have seen many people talk about it recently. I'm assuming because of the video from Chris. Having access to that site/channel, when some don't, is def an advantage granted by utilizing trading outside of the game.

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Randall#0850 написал:

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rrogan17#2926 написал:

I'm curious as to why things like TFT are allowed to operate? I understand that it has been around for a while in PoE and many people use it there, but it does create somewhat of an unfair advantage over those using the in game trade. Not allowing everyone the same access to items is odd and I don't see why people would want this in their game?

With Async trade it is even less needed and I feel like if TFT were to be closed it would help the economy and provide other people with access to the same purchasing ability. I could also imagine that TFT opens the door for RMT, as it would be harder to moderate a channel like that, compared to people speaking over chat in game.

I don't even play trade until I migrate, if I even do, so it basically doesn't impact me, but it just seemed odd that a small % of the player-base has an advantage over others, in regards to the items available and cost of said items.

Just my thoughts as I have seen many people talk about it recently. I'm assuming because of the video from Chris. Having access to that site/channel, when some don't, is def an advantage granted by utilizing trading outside of the game.

How do you prevent people from using TFT? It's just a third party Discord that GGG have absolutely no control over. People will always use out of game resources such as Discord in any game to organise themselves more efficiently.

The solution is to keep improving in game trading until TFT offers very little reason to use it rather than going on some unrealistic banning spree.

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Randall#0850 написал:

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rrogan17#2926 написал:

I'm curious as to why things like TFT are allowed to operate? I understand that it has been around for a while in PoE and many people use it there, but it does create somewhat of an unfair advantage over those using the in game trade. Not allowing everyone the same access to items is odd and I don't see why people would want this in their game?

With Async trade it is even less needed and I feel like if TFT were to be closed it would help the economy and provide other people with access to the same purchasing ability. I could also imagine that TFT opens the door for RMT, as it would be harder to moderate a channel like that, compared to people speaking over chat in game.

I don't even play trade until I migrate, if I even do, so it basically doesn't impact me, but it just seemed odd that a small % of the player-base has an advantage over others, in regards to the items available and cost of said items.

Just my thoughts as I have seen many people talk about it recently. I'm assuming because of the video from Chris. Having access to that site/channel, when some don't, is def an advantage granted by utilizing trading outside of the game.

How do you prevent people from using TFT? It's just a third party Discord that GGG have absolutely no control over. People will always use out of game resources such as Discord in any game to organise themselves more efficiently.

The solution is to keep improving in game trading until TFT offers very little reason to use it rather than going on some unrealistic banning spree.

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Echothesis#7320 написал:

While it is true that TFT admins make IRL profit running mirror shops, TFT also helps normal players to get around GGG's archaic design and unreasonable demands.

Ascendancy trials - solved, pay 50-60 ex for all 8 points. Bulk trade - solved, people had to survive before GGG finally made async trade, and it was many, many years. Exp penalty - solved, tft offers wide array of rota runs. Latter was especially helpful to me in poe1, since I played "incorrect" builds and had absolutely no chance to level past 95.

All in all, TFT is more of the boon to the community, fixing things GGG refuses to fix because Vision.

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rrogan17#2926 написал:

I guess for me anyways, many of the examples you gave I would say is the advantage I'm talking about. Most people don't use TFT or want to have to use a third party program, in order to play the game on an equal playing field as others. While I understand the point you are making, in that it helps some players, that is example the kind of thing I think is bad for the game overall.

- Bulk trade is available on the site, having it in TFT is an advantage.

- Exp penalty is part of the game. If you don't have access to the same exp penalty skips as a few players, it is an advantage also.

- When you say you had no chance to level past 95 and then say because of the third party service you are now able to, that gives you an advantage over the people who do not know or have access to it. This is a perfect example also of what I'm trying to explain.

You say overall it's a boon to the community, but all of the examples you gave only hurt the community as a whole, as most of it does not utilize TFT in any way. By doing so people are at an advantage.

Thanks for the input though. Helps to understand the train of thought of people using the service.