Daggers too OP

FadeXF your polemic postings are not helpful at all.

Of course he doesn't think look at him look it his replies It's so biased It's just amazing how someone can be that one sided. Fade

I mean really ffs he even acused of I_NO doing RMT whos because he or she has better gear then him lol means if anyone has better gear then him automatically RMT's

FadeXF, anyone playing an online game with constant updates should be ready at any point to have his gear/spec/whatever nerfed beyond shit, more or less invalidating the time he invested.

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overpowdered написал:

FadeXF your polemic postings are not helpful at all.

How is pointing out thinking about other players considered as controversial? If anyone is polemic, it's the OP. Let's at least show a bit of honesty in this conversation.

OP hasn't even replied in ages LSN is doing it for him lol

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overpowdered написал:

FadeXF your polemic postings are not helpful at all.

How is pointing out (asking someone to) thinking about other players considered as controversial? If anyone is polemic, it's the OP. Let's at least show a bit of honesty in this conversation.

There's a huge difference between the statment of the OP, daggers are OP, the best by a wide margin and your conclusion:
-> they want to nerf daggers "to shit".

This may be new for you but daggers may still be the best weapons and therfore enable the best builds even if GGG nerfs them right now.

How so?

Because daggers are REALY OP right now.

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Daggers stripped off? Well there are approaches that have been mentioned.

Modifying the crit mutli of 1.5 and adjust it for each weapon seperately is one easy way to go.

When doing so, the dagger reave would probably go down from 450k to 300k dps at best (more likely 350-380k) and still be op as fuck compared to other builds with way less potential - no matter how good gear you use.


Look at the charackter distribution in top 100 or in total of the new leagues (other thread). It is exactly reflecting the issues I am talking about. Duelist, marauder and templar life builds may as well not continue to exist. They are not needed and are stupid to use because they have no access to all the increased crit chance combined with higher attack speed weapons. The game is so heavily imbalanced that the only solution is to get step by step fixes from GGG or quit it for good. Last patches even made the problems of daggers and crits in general worse than better.

I can't recommend this game to anyone in the current state and thats what I want to get changed. Balance is one of the most important things in online games. And PoE doesn't need perfect balance but this is neither about nerfing dagger to the ground nor perfect balance. It is about consolidating stuff instead of increasing the spread further, what GGG does and did in the past. The whole skilltree, all classes and all the other good things in the game lose all their value when only a very few pathes are representing the very correct choices for players.

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TGeorge написал:

FadeXF, anyone playing an online game with constant updates should be ready at any point to have his gear/spec/whatever nerfed beyond shit, more or less invalidating the time he invested.

I don't know if I agree with that - especially in this game GGG has made it pretty public that they want people to feel safe knowing their GEAR (anyways) is safe from nerf. The worst they've done is just retired a couple pieces - not nerfing existing items.

And I don't agree with bears eating fish. The idea is that it's a reality of online gaming. Their gear may be safe, but their specs are not.

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choopk1993 написал:

Should GGG reduce the APS and base crit chance of daggers. Cuz loath bane and honour etcher.....too op needs nerf.

pls...silence.

buff other stuff instead if really necessary

There are many OP things in this game.
Buffing things and adjusting difficulty always better than nerfing.
2 handers need some love, especially when it come to defense.