Detailed overview of Diablo 3 vs. Path of Exile

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mazul написал:
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totomrhum написал:
PoE is for gamers, when D3 is mainstream.

I bought D3 expansion, reach level 70, upgrade some stuff and stop, that was just bored.

i played lot of hours to PoE more than D3 and i bought d3 vanilla D3

For sayd, this blog is extremently subjective ( and a bit stupid)

Difficulty : D3 wins because is more easier than PoE. of course !!

Death systems : D3 wins because PoE has a death penalty, yes PoE need to play with mates for be safe, for an online game, apparamently is wrong. nice try !!

Sound and music : D3 wins because music package is more nostalgic. talk nostalgie in a comparison.

i'll pass on lot of things...

IMO PoE WINS and put D3 at the bottom of toilets and flush


The hardest content in D3 (high level Greater Rifts) is harder than the hardest content in PoE: Uber Atziri.

is it D3 or D3:RoS ?

do I get this high level content in my vanilla game or do I need to shell out another 40 bucks ? something tells me that my vanilla copy is very obsolete right now.
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grepman написал:
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mazul написал:


Maybe the first Hitman game was just not one of the best games out when it was released? Super Mario Bros which was released in 1985 was a very smooth and intuitive experience and that game is considered to be a very good game.

I really dont see the relevance of your post to mine.

what do mario bros have to do with anything ?
Im talking about pc gaming on pc's in the 90s

my point being that some of the greatest pc games Ive played were ridden with bugs, crashes or bad technical design decisions that impeded progress. like vtm:bloodlines or like hitman. that didnt stop them from being great games.

in todays world people who are raised in the world of sterile games, and games that hold your hand the whole time, they cannot even fucking play the original hitman. games that require patience and persistence are too much for the ADD crowd


My point is that your opinion of what were great games may not be in line with what was in general considered to be great games during those times. The first hitman game is not universally considered to be a great game, unlike Super Mario Bros which was released long before that game.

A game that is a PC game that was universally praised and that was released close to when " Hitman: Codename 47" was released: Heroes of Might Magic III was also a very smooth experience.

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Oh, please. We can do better than that, nait.

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This community's eagerness to latch onto anything if it gives them an excuse to go to war over battles already won astounds me.


Frankly I am glad that comment got removed, it was pretty much the stupidest thing I have ever posted on this forum and that is saying something looking at my post history :)

Anyways, it's not an objective opinion that he has written - it is a subjective one, so you can't really argue the toss. It's not like he has presented anything that isn't factual. I'm still pretty confident that I would enjoy POE more than D3, though, given my experiences.
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Последняя редакция: CaptainWaffleIron#2395. Время: 22 февр. 2015 г., 23:31:43
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grepman написал:
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mazul написал:
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totomrhum написал:
PoE is for gamers, when D3 is mainstream.

I bought D3 expansion, reach level 70, upgrade some stuff and stop, that was just bored.

i played lot of hours to PoE more than D3 and i bought d3 vanilla D3

For sayd, this blog is extremently subjective ( and a bit stupid)

Difficulty : D3 wins because is more easier than PoE. of course !!

Death systems : D3 wins because PoE has a death penalty, yes PoE need to play with mates for be safe, for an online game, apparamently is wrong. nice try !!

Sound and music : D3 wins because music package is more nostalgic. talk nostalgie in a comparison.

i'll pass on lot of things...

IMO PoE WINS and put D3 at the bottom of toilets and flush


The hardest content in D3 (high level Greater Rifts) is harder than the hardest content in PoE: Uber Atziri.

is it D3 or D3:RoS ?

do I get this high level content in my vanilla game or do I need to shell out another 40 bucks ? something tells me that my vanilla copy is very obsolete right now.


When people talk about D3, it is in almost all cases refering to D3:RoS.
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Some points of disagreement with things like "nostalgia" being a key point in an argument, but whatever.

I find it more enjoyable an Indie company has a multi-million dollar company tripping in their high heels.

Blizzards also had well over double the time GGG has to perfect the formula and still seems to be struggling with staying on top.
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mazul написал:
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grepman написал:
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mazul написал:


Maybe the first Hitman game was just not one of the best games out when it was released? Super Mario Bros which was released in 1985 was a very smooth and intuitive experience and that game is considered to be a very good game.

I really dont see the relevance of your post to mine.

what do mario bros have to do with anything ?
Im talking about pc gaming on pc's in the 90s

my point being that some of the greatest pc games Ive played were ridden with bugs, crashes or bad technical design decisions that impeded progress. like vtm:bloodlines or like hitman. that didnt stop them from being great games.

in todays world people who are raised in the world of sterile games, and games that hold your hand the whole time, they cannot even fucking play the original hitman. games that require patience and persistence are too much for the ADD crowd


My point is that your opinion of what were great games may not be in line with what was in general considered to be great games during those times. The first hitman game is not universally considered to be a great game, unlike Super Mario Bros which was released long before that game.

A game that is a PC game that was universally praised and that was released close to when " Hitman: Codename 47" was released: Heroes of Might Magic III was also a very smooth experience.

you are now confusing what my point is about

I couldnt give less fucks what is 'considered' a great game by many. Im not a sheep nor will I ever be. game taste is subjective, and if anyone goes by what game is 'universally praised' over their taste, they're a fucking sheep.

now, Im not trying to say great games (universally praised) are bugged, or a game that is bugged is necessarily a great game (universally praised)

I said some of the greatest game IVE PLAYED, were full with bugs. bugs that impeded my progress, just as death penalty does on desync in PoE. instead of whining like a little witch I manned up and overcame them. because I never thought companies owed me jack shit. bugs happen. I write software. no one writes defect-free software, I guarantee you.

finally, I was a big HOMM player back in the day, and maybe you can guess it, but HOMM4 is the best HoMM to me. HoMM3 was basically a polished HoMM2 with very few new ideas. HoMM4 was a complete game-changer and for someone who enjoys RPGs it made for much better solo custom mapping. yet HoMM4 was filled with bugs and awful, unfinished, nonexisting AI. that doesnt stop it from being my favorite in the series, over the uber-polished HOMM3 and armageddons blade, which many consider the best in the series.

this is also what blizzard likes to do- polish to death. starcraft 2 is basically starcraft with new graphics and polished to death.

anyway, Im saying that the obsession with the sterile, especially now is bordering on ridiculous.

people would rather not eat tasty delicious food in a restaurant if they found a hair in it. I would. I appreciate the meat of things, not the bullshit around it. I wont quit going somewhere because of bad customer service or wont quit using a program I like even if its somewhat buggy.

when I play a game, a great game wont be held back by technical glitches or bugs. unless its fatal (and Ill wait for patch then). separate the flies from the meat patties- bugs are one thing, game another.
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PoofGoof написал:
Some points of disagreement with things like "nostalgia" being a key point in an argument, but whatever.

I find it more enjoyable an Indie company has a multi-million dollar company tripping in their high heels.

Blizzards also had well over double the time GGG has to perfect the formula and still seems to be struggling with staying on top.
if you're referring to nostalgia in my argument, I can assure you it has little to do with anything

there are still games coming out that preserve that feel of the 90s, both being imperfectly polished and great idea-wise.

most of them, sadly, are released by indie companies or are kickstarted projects, because, in part, big game companies care way too much about polish, sterility and stability (didnt an assassin creed game have some funny visual bugs and they gave FREE copy of another game to those who bought that yawnstipating game ?) as opposed to bold new ideas and risk.

people nowadays also are less likely to spend time when stuck in a game. theyd rather play another game or cheat when confronted with a challenge, either a difficulty challenge or a technical challenge.

you can download another game in a matter of seconds or look at a guide in a matter of milliseconds
gone are the days where you dont have access to guides and are playing nothing but wizardry iv for 5 months to beat it without hints.
Последняя редакция: grepman#2451. Время: 22 февр. 2015 г., 23:58:03
I've played D3. For maybe 30 play hours total. I played D2 and D1 for probably thousands of hours though. Blizzard makes great games. So I have to assume that D3 is a great game. Although I admit that I haven't played it enough to conclude that on my own for sure. The point being that the review looks reasonable to me. I love PoE and have played many hours. One thing that is mentioned in the comparison/review that I'm sure is true is that D3 doesn't have the frustration and irritation associated with it like PoE does.

The one thing in this thread that I really agree with is the statement that GGG should be proud to be compared so favorably to the mega giant Diablo game!
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you guys are still talking about this?

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Turtledove написал:
I've played D3. For maybe 30 play hours total. I played D2 and D1 for probably thousands of hours though. Blizzard makes great games. So I have to assume that D3 is a great game. Although I admit that I haven't played it enough to conclude that on my own for sure. The point being that the review looks reasonable to me. I love PoE and have played many hours. One thing that is mentioned in the comparison/review that I'm sure is true is that D3 doesn't have the frustration and irritation associated with it like PoE does.

The one thing in this thread that I really agree with is the statement that GGG should be proud to be compared so favorably to the mega giant Diablo game!
oh it surely did, when d3 was first released. inferno starting with act 2 was no joke

and for a company that prides itself with releasing polished games, that game in its initial state was far less polished than vanilla d2.

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