[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

Ty for answer

I misworded the survability question, i meant my necro survability not minions, with which minion i will have better survvability golems or spectre?

I've just switched for golem lvl 24, cost me like 8 exa (it's a lot for me).

Before i was playing with 4 flame senti summoned on shaper.

The fact is golem isn't better than spectre and the cost is x20 (maybe more) vs spectre, i'm not sure i did a good choice ...

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mika2salo написал:

Hello :)

You can only get +2 Golems from primordial jewels. As said Anima Stones dont stack and only grant the extra Golems once. The wording is again bit tricky, but thats how it works.

Make sure you don't have "Cast when damage taken" in "Clayshaper" or it will raise stone golems when you take damage and doing so remove one of your Flame Golems. Clayshaper has "hidden" Stone Golem inside what linked CWDT sees when it triggers.

only if the lvl of cwdt is high enough. i have a lvl 1 cwdt in my clayshaper for convocation + phase run and it doesnt trigger stone golem as the skill lvl is too high

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Camaron написал:

Ty for answer

I misworded the survability question, i meant my necro survability not minions, with which minion i will have better survvability golems or spectre?

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I've just switched for golem lvl 24, cost me like 8 exa (it's a lot for me).

Before i was playing with 4 flame senti summoned on shaper.

The fact is golem isn't better than spectre and the cost is x20 (maybe more) vs spectre, i'm not sure i did a good choice ...

Hello :)

I made Specters vs Golems compare some time ago :

Golems

+ Great clear-speed
+ Great singe target damage
+ Huge lifepool
+ Can stack regen
+ Can be re-summoned immediately if they die
+ Can take any Ascendacy nodes

- Expensive

Specters

+ Much, much cheaper to run at start than Golems
+ Can do most endgame (even T16 & Shaper)
+ No need to re-summon them if they don't actually die
+ Can select favorite Specter from about 3-5 great ones

- Can't stack regen
- Don't scale with gem level as other minions
- They will die and you need to resummon them from maps
- Specter movement speed is capped
- Most Specters have terrible AI and clear speed
- Specter Ascendancy nodes are less useful than the ones Golemancer can take.
- Can die to reflective maps
- Can get stuck in traps and die(labs, certain maps)

There was more talk about Flame Golems vs Flame Sentinels vs Solar Guards. They all share the same basic move which is spam fire based attack which is supported by GMP. Level 24 Golems have roughly same clear speed with low level items as both Specters from shaper / guardian maps, so at start you really don't notice much difference as Golems wont have massive DPS boost compared to Specters.

However the longer you play, the more difference you will notice. Goles movement speed is not capped so if you get around 30% minion movement speed for both rigs and 15% from frenzy charges, Flame Golems will be running beside you while Specters will be dragging behind.

You can stack Golems level higher slowly once you get Sotl and 20/20 Golems plus level 3 Empower. Specters are locked to level they are summoned from, so theres no room for improvement.

Regen and minion survival is huge matter as Specters have about 2.5% regen from the skill tree and rest has to come from gear. Damage over time in many maps (Hall of GM, Uber Atziri, Vaal Temple, Shaper bubble phase, etc) can be lethal to Specters as they cant block each kind of damage and cant regen faster. Golems can stack as many Harmonies as you want to have which all add 2% regen for them. This makes them extremely tanky, almost immune to Damage over time and reflect maps.

Your own survival is also better with Golems as you dont have to worry about minion survival at all. No need to spam Bone Offer to keep Specters block up or cast Convocation to get them away from danger. You can just leave Golems fighting with the boss and keep on kiting. If they even happen to die, just instantly cast 2 new ones. When Specters die, you need to portal out to get new ones or you will die very soon after that. No need to even have corpses nearby. You can set all links to improve your own defense as you dont need to sacrifice them for minions.

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only if the lvl of cwdt is high enough. i have a lvl 1 cwdt in my clayshaper for convocation + phase run and it doesnt trigger stone golem as the skill lvl is too high

Hey!

Thanks for info! Usually I want lower level CWDT to be 4-link, so I have not tested it as 3-link. The Storm Burst sure frees a lot of gem slots :)

hi,
I got a question to "cast when damage taken". How does "bone offering" even gets triggered if "cast when damage taken" is level 20? The description of your current gear says that it only gets triggered after 3272 dmg was taken and that you cant trigger the supported skill by your own. Thats way too much or?

And so my run has ended, I reached 36/40 in Hardcore, Level 97 and did 3/4 Guardians. Died to Minotaur (Last one missing) who head Monster Life, Poison on hit and 40% extra resists. Died after roughly 10 minutes, this guy is tanky compared to the other guardians or the extra resist mod is stronger then expected. Did all content besides Minotaur, Shaper, Vaal Temple and Uber.
Fun build, would recommend again. I changed the build to be block and life based but well. Had fun, what else should you expect?
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/trojanrabbit/characters?characterName=golance

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DrizztDoUrden89 написал:

hi,
I got a question to "cast when damage taken". How does "bone offering" even gets triggered if "cast when damage taken" is level 20? The description of your current gear says that it only gets triggered after 3272 dmg was taken and that you cant trigger the supported skill by your own. Thats way too much or?

That's exactly how it works. A Lv 20 CwDT gem means that any other linked skill gem that has <70 level requirement will trigger. So any gem that is not Lv 21 or above will work. When it says you cannot trigger on your own, it means you cannot cast Bone Offering manually, but it will be cast when you take a certain amount of damage.

3272 damage is fine. We max CwDT so that we can use max level Bone Offering for more Block Chance. If you need to, having it on lower levels is perfectly fine; we still have Rumi's Concoction flask.

Think swapping to lightning golem for bosses would work well?

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Mastandrea90 написал:

Think swapping to lightning golem for bosses would work well?

The best single target golem is Chaos golem in my opinion but... It is not worth it, you need to swap to much supports, if you want to buff single target you can switch GMP for either slower projectiles or culling strike on your flame golems.

Thanks bud can't wait.