"kripps" CI Cyclone Claw build help for onslaught

What supports would you use with a 4l/5l with cyclone before you go CI? For example I am currently level 65 and wanting to play Cyclone instead of cleave. I have picked up the claw nodes and what I think is a decent claw bit I dont know what links to use in my 5l Im thinking

Cyclone, Faster Attacks, Physical Damage, Mana Leach and Added lighting damage.

Obviously when Igo CI I can use Phy Damage on full life but dont think it would work too well atm


is this claw any good?

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ktwilson написал:

What supports would you use with a 4l/5l with cyclone before you go CI? For example I am currently level 65 and wanting to play Cyclone instead of cleave. I have picked up the claw nodes and what I think is a decent claw bit I dont know what links to use in my 5l Im thinking

Cyclone, Faster Attacks, Physical Damage, Mana Leach and Added lighting damage.

Obviously when Igo CI I can use Phy Damage on full life but dont think it would work too well atm


is this claw any good?

Pretty damn good, nice find. What kind of shield are you guys using?

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ktwilson написал:

What supports would you use with a 4l/5l with cyclone before you go CI? For example I am currently level 65 and wanting to play Cyclone instead of cleave. I have picked up the claw nodes and what I think is a decent claw bit I dont know what links to use in my 5l Im thinking

Cyclone, Faster Attacks, Physical Damage, Mana Leach and Added lighting damage.

Obviously when Igo CI I can use Phy Damage on full life but dont think it would work too well atm


is this claw any good?

I'm speaking as an experienced phys melee but havent gotten leveled my duelist yet due to time contraints.

The best support gems in my oppinion depends:

Offensive: Melee Phys Damage is the best, followed by Melee on Full Life (becomes equal to mpd once you have CI). Since they offer MORE 50% damage on lvl 20 using both is just insane damage.
Then you can try: faster atacks (note the INCREASED atk speed) , plus atk speed low effectiveness with armor makes it worse than the physical damage support gems.
You can also try conc effect,increased area of effect, added fire damage but 3 offensive support gems are more than enought.

If you have a 5L you can add a defensive choice, life leech would be sweet in order to obtain the 30% life leech, mana leech might be necessary if mind drinker does not cover your mana costs (you can also itemize mana leech tho).
For 6L i would suggest 3 offensive 2 defensive on HC/Oslaught, then test your way into your sweet spot.

Any thoughts on using frenzy for your 6L skill instead of cyclone? Something like:

Frenzy + Increased Melee Damage + Increased Melee on Full Life + Melee Splash + Increased Area of Effect + Added Fire (or Concentrated Effect)

I'm not sure how the radius of Melee Splash compares to Cyclone, and I haven't seriously used Melee Splash, either, so I don't know how practical it is. The build would probably be altered to pick up all frenzy charges, too, given their close proximity.

By using Cyclone and Faster Attacks, you get:
54% (Faster Attacks) + 38% (L20 Cyclone) = 92% Increased Attack Speed
76% (L20 Cyclone) Increased Physical Damage
40% effectiveness (but two attacks) = 80% multiplicative damage modifier (ignoring the fact that smaller hits are less effective due to the way armor works)

Frenzy and Melee Splash gets you:
126% (Q20, L20 frenzy with 7 charges) Increased Attack Speed
84% (L20 frenzy with 7 charges) + 57% (Melee Splash) = 141% Increased Physical Damage
110% effectiveness (I believe Frenzy is 110% base damage) - 16% (Melee splash main target) = 94% (main target) or 79% (other targets) multiplicative damage modifier

So in the end you gain:
42% increased attack speed
65% increased melee damage

The effectiveness difference is a wash for secondary targets, and a gain for the primary target. That math also ignores the attack speed bonus of having the extra frenzy charges. By all means, please double check that math since I very easily could be missing something.

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Gullo написал:

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ktwilson написал:

What supports would you use with a 4l/5l with cyclone before you go CI? For example I am currently level 65 and wanting to play Cyclone instead of cleave. I have picked up the claw nodes and what I think is a decent claw bit I dont know what links to use in my 5l Im thinking

Cyclone, Faster Attacks, Physical Damage, Mana Leach and Added lighting damage.

Obviously when Igo CI I can use Phy Damage on full life but dont think it would work too well atm


is this claw any good?

Pretty damn good, nice find. What kind of shield are you guys using?

I'm interested in what kind of shields you guys are using too. I just hit 60 and I'm switching to Cyclone Claw (Life) in two to three levels, since I just got the claw nodes. I'll make my way to the Falcon Claws ones after picking up some life nodes.

Also, goddam it's hard finding a phys claw out there. ;~;

Is this build any good for solo and 99% self-found ? Cause I can imagine certain bosses (like Vaal) or hard hitting rares can cause some trouble for solo melee.

Aight, I'm lvl 63, finally transitioned into Cyclone Claw (Life).

Now, here are my few problems or remarks about what I'm experiencing. Please help me out with this.

1. I can't die. I've got like 35/30/30 resists in A2 Mercy, 2.2k HP, 5K Armor, 21% Life Leech (NO Vaal Pact)

2. I don't do any dmg. This is my current claw and I do barely 360 DPS on my Cyclone.

I've got a 4L R-R-R-G, in which I'm putting Cyclone -> Melee Physical -> Life Leech, and I'm skipping on another red support gem (like Added Fire) because I can't sustain the mana cost.


What should I do to improve my DPS? A better phys roll on the claw? 4 sockets RRGG (Cyclone/Life Leech/Faster Attacks/Added Fire Damage)? How much should I spend on a really good 200+DPS claw?

Also, what's your DPS with cyclone at this moment?

edit: What kind of Phys Claw am I looking for, and does the APS matter a lot (<1.3)

I've actually been cycloning since like level 40, and have had very few issues. I suffered some mana issues until I picked up a mana leech ring, 2% is enough to sustain cyclone forever (occasionally I'll run out using double strike if the mob has a TON of hp).

I'm using 3 link -

G,G,R :Double Strike, Melee Phys, Faster Attacks.

And 4 link

G,G,R,B: Cyclone (6%), Melee Phys, Faster Attacks, Increased AoE.

Claw with 6% life leech, ring with 2% mana leech; I've fully cleared act 2 merciless up to Vaal with little effort, pretty much face tanking everything except some of the tankier chaos spiders.

2600 HP, 5500 armor, maxed resists (-47 chaos).



those are my weapons.

i run enfeeble curse, and grace aura; going to try running determination as well when I find the gem.

Scared of vaal atm, farming up til I'm over 3k health then will give it a shot. 0 complaints or issues with the build atm though, outside of being slow since movement speed is bad.

Well im level 66 and im already running CI in act 3 Merc, farming docks and sarn without a breaking a sweat. And with only like 1600 - 1700 ES running discipline and grace ( though my armour is lower than i want since I dont have determination while solo) though right now I am literally UNKILLABLE. I am overcapped like mad on my resists, but my gear isn't that amazing by any means. And by what i was expecting, I find my dps perfectly fine. Around 1.5k tooltip dps.




my helm is just what ever helm i had in my stash, same with my chest, which is TOTAL trash. Once I get a 500 es chest i should be over like 2.5k es ( Which honestly, i dont care what people are saying atm, your life steal is insane, you dont need A LOT) neck is pretty what ever too. But i do have a good shield upgrade
My main concern is upgrading my chest and finding a better helm and maybe neck and just level to 68 for my shield.

My build so far:


For bandits i took skill point, physical damage, frenzy charge.

If you have any questions for me that i can answer at this point, pm me ingame @AlphaWookie or post here, i monitor this thread quite often.

What is your guys' cyclone tooltip dps looking like about the time you start doing maps? I have a 245 dps claw and feel like Im still not doing much damage