Soul Taker needs a nerf

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

But the issue to me is how much easier it is to say 'wtb Soul Taker' than 'wtb rare Siege Axe with 200%+ IPD, 20%+ IAS,' and so forth.

A unique is, in this regard, all about consistency. One ST is much like another, until you get into the nitty-gritty of Divining. So you have a situation where instead of having to carefully hunt down what you want, crafting it, refining it, there's a ready-made package of power.

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

Yes, you can definitely roll a better rare than it for its level. Definitely.

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JohnNamikaze написал:

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

Just one more thought, now that I've had a long(er) chat with the dev who designed Soul Taker.

Yes, you can definitely roll a better rare than it for its level. Definitely.

But the issue to me is how much easier it is to say 'wtb Soul Taker' than 'wtb rare Siege Axe with 200%+ IPD, 20%+ IAS,' and so forth.

A unique is, in this regard, all about consistency. One ST is much like another, until you get into the nitty-gritty of Divining. So you have a situation where instead of having to carefully hunt down what you want, crafting it, refining it, there's a ready-made package of power.

Anyway. Just a thought.

Not directing to your Charan.




Yea, good luck trying to buy a better rare siege axe than a good rolled Soul Taker. I wonder how you can convince a seller to sell you that weapon less than a price of a mirror. Most would demand you a mirror + exalt fee to get that dream weapon.

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BerMalBerIst1 написал:

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BerMalBerIst1 написал:

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Jaille написал:

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BerMalBerIst1 написал:

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pneuma написал:

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CharanJaydemyr написал:

Yes, you can definitely roll a better rare than it for its level. Definitely.

Not when you account for the upsides that mana-negligence gives. Also ignoring the chill effect, which is non-negligible. The mana-negligence aspect is heavily undercosted, just like the chaos->eshield aspect of Shav's is heavily undercosted.

Not having to worry about mana in the current meta frees up either Blood Magic (support or keystone) or Mana Leech (support or gear requirements) and mana passives.

In the Blood Magic case:
- Free support slot. Usually Added Fire, 1.4x (or more with WED investment) final damage multiplier.
- Much less life drain from attacks, which makes life gain on hit much stronger.

In the Leech case:
- Free support slot. Usually Added Fire, again.
- Multiple extra passives (usually Mana Flows and maybe another cluster) that can go into life or damage.
- No need for +mana on gear.

In both cases:
- Allows even more auras to be used by reserving 100% of mana. This will become even stronger after the aura-exploit is fixed in 0.11.4.

This also does not mention that the difference between two awesome rare siege axes and an awesome rare + Soul Taker is almost no contest. You get all the benefits and only lose ~40% possible damage on only one of your weapons.

So no, a rare axe may have higher base dps, but that's all it has, and that base increase does not make up for the benefits of ignoring mana cost in the slightest. A rare axe that can compete with Soul Taker is also many, many times rarer. One that dominates Soul Taker is even rarer than that.

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The worst part is that mana-negligence on something with little power is actually very interesting. It allows people to run 5/6L Dominating Blow builds with ease and makes for interesting tree choices. The fast attacking builds that rely on added elemental damage would still function extremely well, even if the weapon itself did zero damage.

Mana costs and mana regen/leech are the things that balance attack and cast speed in this game. Removing that limiter and not accounting for the power gain is terrible design.

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Oh, and it gets a (minor) buff in 0.11.4. Herp a fuckin' derp.