WytchfinderGeneral: CI ele cleave guide ,250k tooltip dps(outdated)

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milkteax1 написал:
Hey its Jay, i was lookin at ur build and i really cant stand not having crit haha, how do u think this would work out?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBbUM8g5IEHsRLxGWGdchwClPKwosvy0fMok2PTrYO-E9X0bXTdhSU1fiXcZtGW1sd-V9U3_GgpuDOIhri3qMdpmanYCio6XLpyuuz7MOtMW1SLaGtve-OsEAwcXB88Nt2xrdBd3z4vfjhOtj647sOO989Uv_k-QiGmydrqcI2CQ2xR8CBAdMs49GgUmyOGZPnaP8q_PqcFKNv1FHPs-95vlj51Qk_dUAGtvuDlb63UZjp_xOl5UnqbUEfq92EZP8h9sWvw==

Points to get last would be
2x Bloodthirst passives (-6 used skill pts) ; just use diamonds
The 8% max shield beside Arcane Focus (-1)

Build would hit all key points at 76; but my build has 120 str less than urs, might need to hit another 30 str passive, or not level leap slam as much (its physical anyways).



I was thinking about dropping the Bloodthirst passive on the templar side and taking +30% increased effect of buffs.

Pretty good boost of these, assuming it works like this (at ur gems' levels)
Discipline: 388 -> 504
Anger: avg 46.5 -> 60.45
Wrath: avg 55 -> 71.5
Hatred: 24% -> 31.2%



I replaced the 3 6% lightning dmg's in the templar tree with the witch tree's 6% + 12% light dmg/15 light res



50 more int so losing the %max mana passives isnt as bad

A bit more shield cuz of the int, but there's less fire and cold resist due to not going to the middle. Build already gives +40 all resist from double Nullification / Body Soul / Celestial Walker though, so not sure if ur having resist problems.



Same accuracy as ur build but without Resolute Technique, could be a problem?


Alirgthy here:Passive skill tree build

As i've said before, if you can get max crit chance, dont get it at all, so i just got max crit multiplier and you will only use diamond flasks, you will do insane dps this way without having to spend so many points on critical chance.

I suggest the next few levels in OB that you take accuracy nodes, you will have a slight accuracy problem, but you can probably fix that with a accuracy support gem (gives crit chance on quality to) until then.

You will only have mana problems if you're using a 6l with fast weapons, so had to quality concentrated effect and mana leech to 20% to get rid of mana problems, now the mana cost is a easily sustainable 46 on attack.

You want have any rez problems by the way with some decent rez gear, its pretty good from the tree as it looks, less than mine, but i did take the extra rez node and got to 80 to all, thats why took more of it.

Its just the accuracy that you might have to work on, the rest should work like a charm with this setup of crit multi.
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VictorDoom написал:
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milkteax1 написал:
Hey its Jay, i was lookin at ur build and i really cant stand not having crit haha, how do u think this would work out?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYBBbUM8g5IEHsRLxGWGdchwClPKwosvy0fMok2PTrYO-E9X0bXTdhSU1fiXcZtGW1sd-V9U3_GgpuDOIhri3qMdpmanYCio6XLpyuuz7MOtMW1SLaGtve-OsEAwcXB88Nt2xrdBd3z4vfjhOtj647sOO989Uv_k-QiGmydrqcI2CQ2xR8CBAdMs49GgUmyOGZPnaP8q_PqcFKNv1FHPs-95vlj51Qk_dUAGtvuDlb63UZjp_xOl5UnqbUEfq92EZP8h9sWvw==

Points to get last would be
2x Bloodthirst passives (-6 used skill pts) ; just use diamonds
The 8% max shield beside Arcane Focus (-1)

Build would hit all key points at 76; but my build has 120 str less than urs, might need to hit another 30 str passive, or not level leap slam as much (its physical anyways).



I was thinking about dropping the Bloodthirst passive on the templar side and taking +30% increased effect of buffs.

Pretty good boost of these, assuming it works like this (at ur gems' levels)
Discipline: 388 -> 504
Anger: avg 46.5 -> 60.45
Wrath: avg 55 -> 71.5
Hatred: 24% -> 31.2%



I replaced the 3 6% lightning dmg's in the templar tree with the witch tree's 6% + 12% light dmg/15 light res



50 more int so losing the %max mana passives isnt as bad

A bit more shield cuz of the int, but there's less fire and cold resist due to not going to the middle. Build already gives +40 all resist from double Nullification / Body Soul / Celestial Walker though, so not sure if ur having resist problems.



Same accuracy as ur build but without Resolute Technique, could be a problem?


Alirgthy here:Passive skill tree build

As i've said before, if you can get max crit chance, dont get it at all, so i just got max crit multiplier and you will only use diamond flasks, you will do insane dps this way without having to spend so many points on critical chance.

I suggest the next few levels in OB that you take accuracy nodes, you will have a slight accuracy problem, but you can probably fix that with a accuracy support gem (gives crit chance on quality to) until then.

You will only have mana problems if you're using a 6l with fast weapons, so had to quality concentrated effect and mana leech to 20% to get rid of mana problems, now the mana cost is a easily sustainable 46 on attack.

You want have any rez problems by the way with some decent rez gear, its pretty good from the tree as it looks, less than mine, but i did take the extra rez node and got to 80 to all, thats why took more of it.

Its just the accuracy that you might have to work on, the rest should work like a charm with this setup of crit multi.


Alrighty tighty, just tried a build similar to that:Passive skill tree build

i think i could probably get rid of some accuracy nodes and just get some dex nodes, but not sure how that will affect dps, it will give me more points for ele dmg nodes though

and i've made prinscreens of the dps on flask:

With wakes 62k: http://i.imgur.com/HUH57.jpg

Without 50k: http://i.imgur.com/C6lqg.jpg

so yeah... haven't seen any better dps on cleave than that. i will most likely do this in OB
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Последняя редакция: VictorDoom. Время: 8 дек. 2012 г., 10:01:31
That is spectacular DPS, particularly given the modest mana cost. Vic, I think your instinct that the accuracy nodes aren't worth it is probably right - after all, for the acc nodes both near the shadow start and near the templar zone are both a bit off the main path (it takes you 8 nodes to get 56% increased accuracy, which is 7% acc per node (not including base att benefits) - which in my experience is marginal.

You could, instead, use 7 of those 8 nodes to get the 90% crit multipler for boss one-shotting. Alternatively, you could use the 8 nodes to get the other 30% WED nodes near the Ranger start. Anyway, just food for thought!

Petrov.
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mrpetrov написал:
That is spectacular DPS, particularly given the modest mana cost. Vic, I think your instinct that the accuracy nodes aren't worth it is probably right - after all, for the acc nodes both near the shadow start and near the templar zone are both a bit off the main path (it takes you 8 nodes to get 56% increased accuracy, which is 7% acc per node (not including base att benefits) - which in my experience is marginal.

You could, instead, use 7 of those 8 nodes to get the 90% crit multipler for boss one-shotting. Alternatively, you could use the 8 nodes to get the other 30% WED nodes near the Ranger start. Anyway, just food for thought!

Petrov.


I just respec into this, and i also just realised that i have 81% chance to hit against mobs of my level (83) which dont exist, so i think i can respec those points safely into more multiplier and lightning damage.

just checked the accuracy would be about 84% against level 69 mobs, that is high enough.

im going to get more regrets and i think ill get the 70% multiplier or some lightning dmg nodes, will post the updated build with screenshots after i do this.

Dps should be even higher then.

EDIT: as you suggested petrov, with only keeping the Precision node my accuracy is at ~80% for level 69 mobs and the critical multiplier is at 450%

Screens of the new dps:

WIh malis, wakes and a crit amulet 103k (599% multiplier): http://imgur.com/d2zyd

With wakes 72k :http://imgur.com/GYpyE,UpK9H

Without wakes 59k: http://imgur.com/GYpyE,UpK9H#1

Well im pretty sure i broke the dps record :D
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Последняя редакция: VictorDoom. Время: 8 дек. 2012 г., 12:08:51
Good stuff Vic, that's impressive. I've always leant towards elemental builds since my first Ranger. Just make sure you don't pop a diamond and cleave an elemental reflected mob!

You're so close to Alchemist, Finnesse, 3x3% IAS nodes, 2x4% IAS nodes, 3x elemental dmg nodes and a 12% accuracy node. Must be tempting...:)

P.

EDIT: Vic, would you agree or not that getting an optimal gem setup is going to be tricky for an elemental-cleave build using an ES chest?
Последняя редакция: mrpetrov. Время: 8 дек. 2012 г., 12:38:45
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mrpetrov написал:
Good stuff Vic, that's impressive. I've always leant towards elemental builds since my first Ranger. Just make sure you don't pop a diamond and cleave an elemental reflected mob!

You're so close to Alchemist, Finnesse, 3x3% IAS nodes, 2x4% IAS nodes, 3x elemental dmg nodes and a 12% accuracy node. Must be tempting...:)

P.

EDIT: Vic, would you agree or not that getting an optimal gem setup is going to be tricky for an elemental-cleave build using an ES chest?


Yes it is tricky, especially if you have only 4 links, at 5links you could use my setup and eliminate either faster attacks or lightning damage.

At a 4link, id say you use cleave-weapon ele-concentrated effect(or increased area)-mana leech.

You will need to use mana leech gem either way unfortunately.
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Completely false build.
Guy jumps to CI without taking any life nodes. I wonder how are you going to survive first two difficulties without energy gear waiting for you on OB.

Speccing back to invalescos build.
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hellzer написал:
Completely false build.
Guy jumps to CI without taking any life nodes. I wonder how are you going to survive first two difficulties without energy gear waiting for you on OB.

Speccing back to invalescos build.


Regret orbs mate. (and fetid pool+ golden hand quests)

How do you think i survived it here? there was no es gear waiting for me anywhere, i started naked like everyone else :|
I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/
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World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950
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Последняя редакция: VictorDoom. Время: 9 дек. 2012 г., 7:15:44
Impressive. Wakes OP :o

With the Diamond reliance it might be worth it to drop Fire Walker and use those 2 points to pick up Alchemist.

Is that 103 still using Lightning Damage support or did you put in Increased Crit Damage instead?

Also have you considered somehow getting a larger mana pool so you can leech at a higher rate and maybe drop those mana flasks entirely? Maybe taking the Alira reward for example, or grabbing more of the mana nodes at the Witch and Templar starts? With that APS you're consuming over 200 mana a second! And only leeching back 85 mp/s.

I'm also impressed that this placed highly in a 1month race. ES melee always seemed like the kind of build that would need some twinking, because it would be in serious trouble without Chayula and at least solid ES gear.
Последняя редакция: aimlessgun. Время: 8 дек. 2012 г., 13:15:48
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aimlessgun написал:
Impressive. Wakes OP :o

With the Diamond reliance it might be worth it to drop Fire Walker and use those 2 points to pick up Alchemist.

Is that 103 still using Lightning Damage support or did you put in Increased Crit Damage instead?

Also have you considered somehow getting a larger mana pool so you can leech at a higher rate and maybe drop those mana flasks entirely? Maybe taking the Alira reward for example, or grabbing more of the mana nodes at the Witch and Templar starts? With that APS you're consuming over 200 mana a second! And only leeching back 85 mp/s.


I only got fire walker for the rez, and the extra fire dmg is always welcome.

nope still using light dmg support, havent tried it with crit dmg yet.

I just pop mana flasks so sustain the attack, its not a problem cause im also using ele weakness, and thats more damage leeched back.

Mana is bigger on the RT build btw, its a more stable and simple build than the second one.

Also the RT build got in 6th 1 month race, not the second one.
(also didn't have such high es gear in the race, build only needs es/rez gear to work+chayula)
I used the RT buld for the race because its much safer and easier to do than this non RT one.
I've only did the new build to see how far i can break the boundaries of dps

EDIT: you are right, more damage with critical muliplier at 115k: http://imgur.com/EOSTo (thanks for that bro)



I carve and sell real animal skulls, check out my work here: https://www.instagram.com/victorseiche/
https://www.facebook.com/victorseicheart/
World first Uber Atziri as 2h and 2h RT build: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1058950
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Последняя редакция: VictorDoom. Время: 8 дек. 2012 г., 16:56:03

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