1.3 [Newbie Friendly] GROUNDSLAMMER BUILD
Anyone tried to replace faster attack support on GS/HS with added fire damage?
I would like to try GS and HS with melee phys, life leech, multistrike and added fire (instead of faster attacks) At level 20(20%q) which gem is better? Notice that with faster attack you need 100+ dex which is pain in the ass to get, need at least 2 dex nodes (30dex) which can be raplaced with incrase phys dmg nodes (+24%). With added fire support you can go pure strenght build. |
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@alxuser890
Nice. Are you asking for advice about how to get stronger ? You seem to be having a good understanding of the game so keep doing your own thing ;) @berzer Yes, I've always used Fire Dmg instead of Faster. I'd say in most situations Faster is a bit better but it's not worth it if it's a lot of trouble for you. Added Fire dmg gets the job fine too. |
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This help a lot, i bought mine for 15-20c, after this you only need 1 +30 dex node to keep dex high for faster attack or high int for enfeeble, also with the leech you can drop the life leech gem and add another attack gem. |
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" You rock man, really helped your post My stats HP:4087 DPS:1825, Ground Slam:4280, Heavy Strike:6620 Armor:2907 Physical damage reduction:26% Endurance charges:7 Elemental Resistances: 77% Chaos Res: -47% Life regen: 148 Here my gear now New helm, belt, amulet and low lvl CwDT (lvl1 CwdT-lvl5 Enduring-lvl5 Enfeeble-lvl7 Molten)
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I know that the amethyst ring sucks but i have this cause of dex, intel i need. My PASSIVE TREE is exactly as shown at the guide. One more node to have it completed(Endurance charge duration) NOOB QUESTIONS: What is should go for next on passives? Pls post a tree cause i am noob and maybe dont understand right. What i dont understand is about the Immortal Call? This combo (high lvl Immortal-Increased Duration-Enfeeble/Decoy) goes with CwDT to replace the other one or I just use Decoy, immortal call separate? What totem is best to use? My resistances are cap 77% and i have all over 100% so i can miss res from gear if need to add any other ability. Any ideas? What about chaos res? i can just ignore it? Also found this chest
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Flasks i use
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Maybe need to use different? IGN: thesikaleon Visit my SHOP ░▒▓█▀▄▀ pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730251 ▀▄▀█▓▒░ All Gems just 5 alch!!! QUALITY GEMS just 1 alch!!! Последняя редакция: thesikaleon#4679. Время: 6 янв. 2014 г., 03:22:50
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@thesikaleon
You haven't listed your over the 77% cap resistances, the number in the brackets ( ) right next to it. Two immediate changes: 1) Replace Leech on GS and HS with Multi Strike gems. Find ~lvl 15 ones to skip leveling them. Multi Strike changes a bit the playstyle of the character, forcing you to attack in rounds of 3. It's annoying in the start but you will get to used to it and learn to play around that. It's a big boost in dps, it's needed. Leech is covered by Carnage and the 2% from passive tree. 2) Forget the original tree. There is only the current one (what you use at the moment) and your end goal, which should look to something like this (lvl85 goal, main points reaching Amplify on the north and Leather and Steel on the east). Respec the current one to this. Removing two 12% pdmg (weak, need more than 12% to be good), increased charge duration (no need for it, if there's need auto cwdt will refresh it) and unwavering stance (better to have a ~10% to dodge attacks than stun immunity which barely ever happens in this stage of the game due to how stun works) and gaining 15% pdmg, 10% pdmg+10%armor and progress your end goal of reaching Amplify by getting Faith and Steel (8% Armor, 20% Armor+8%Ele Res. After these two things get tougher, you will be needing careful planning and currency to respec 15-20 points and buy items. Main goal is to minimize the points you use for elemental resistances, replace that from items and use the saved points to make the char stronger. That's why I wanted to see your real ele res numbers to get a grasp of how much room you got there. Anyway, first big respec should be this. Replace 8 points for 5. If you cover those resistances items with items you lose nothing except the crit dmg reduction which is nothing. You gain 43% Armor, 2% mov speed, 30 STR and on top of that you get 3 "free" points to spend. It's obvious how much worth it the respec is. Second respec and the biggest is this. Replace 11 points for 12. Lose 40 STR, 10 Dex, 1 End Charge, 28% Life, 1.5% Regen, 12% All Res. Gain 30 STR, 20 DEX, 10 INT, 84% Armor, little evasion, 26% Life, 12% Attack Speed, no mov speed penalty. Main losses are the All Res and the End Charge. If you can cover that all res loss from gear this change is very beneficial too. More dex and int to help in gem requirements, a ton of armor that synergizes very well with end game high armor gear and granite potions, huge attack speed boost (roughly equal to 40% increased phys dmg from passive points) and finally the removal of the movement speed penalty which is a lot end game with the high armor pieces. You will notice a lot the last change if you have boots with mov speed, specially max roll 25% or 30%. Needless to say how important mov speed is both for clearing faster and survival reasons. Third respec is the smallest and not that important. It's 4 points on the north of Sentinel which provide 18% All res and 15% pDMG. Those 4 points are actually very effective but if you have the max res already you can remove them and use them elsewhere. Gear wise, only easy upgrade is gloves, grab ones with Life+High Res Roll (~40%)+Att Speed(10%+) or Life+2 High Res Roll. Any additional stats like high armor or bonus attributes are a bonus. After that things are tough, chest kinda weak but has valuable 5L and amethyst ring no resistances but gives attributes. Gem wise, put Leap Slam somewhere on its own and use the 4L either for a high level cwdt-decoy-molten shell-enduring cry or immortall call-increased duraction-Enduring cry.
Here's my setup:
What is should go for next on passives? Pls post a tree cause i am noob and maybe dont understand right. My resistances are cap 77% and i have all over 100% so i can miss res from gear if need to add any other ability. Any ideas? -I covered that analytically. What i dont understand is about the Immortal Call? This combo (high lvl Immortal-Increased Duration-Enfeeble/Decoy) goes with CwDT to replace the other one or I just use Decoy, immortal call separate? What totem is best to use? -I strongly prefer using Immortall Call seperate. I also like having the ability to cast Enduring Cry and Enfeeble separately because on rare occasions it's useful (kiting bosses etc.) Imo 1 4L should be that, another the basic low lvl CwDT you already using and another higher level CwDT with spells that benefit from high level like Molten Shell and Decoy Totem. 4th linked spell on that is a tough choice, I have high int and put a summon gem. I've linked my setup too to take ideas. It's not mandatory to copy it, it's not ideal anyway, just works for me. What about chaos res? i can just ignore it? -Well, the easy way both effort and currency wise is yes not think too much about it. Personally I put effort from when i first started Merciless to search for gear with chaos res and I've almost always been having 75% on that too. It's not as useful as elemental resistances but it's definitely useful. Some map bosses do chaos dmg and without resistance you can't do them and sometimes some rare group of monsters have it too and kill you insta. A medium solution is reaching 30-40% and then rely on the flask to get you to max when needed. Just as everything in this game it's a balance and there's always room for improvement. Also found this chest...Does it worth to try make it 5l? Should i just make it 4l and replace the 5l one i have now equipped? -It's a good chest but that is your call to make. You have to weight in the pros and cons from a move like that. How much it costs ? What other upgrades I can do with that cost ? Do I take full advantage of the resistances it provides ? Can I afford the process of taking advantage of the 6S to turn it to a 5L ? Flasks....Maybe need to use different? -They are good, not optimal. First of all they are not 20% quality and not perfectly rolled (or close to that). Flasks also are a matter of personal preference and gameplay. For a very long time I liked running 2 Life, 1 Granite and 2 quicksilver ones. Recently after having difficulty in hard rolled 73+ maps I swapped to 2 Life, 2 Granite and 1 Resistance one depending on the situation (mostly lightning).
Here's my setup:(most used to least used)
Последняя редакция: eladir#0300. Время: 6 янв. 2014 г., 06:09:32
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" fire 106 cold 99 light 105 if use the 6s chest fire 119 cold 113 light 137 thx for your effort, you rock!!!! There should have be some kind of forum reputation system here to give you +1000 ;) much to be done, i will follow your guide and be back if got stuck IGN: thesikaleon Visit my SHOP ░▒▓█▀▄▀ pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730251 ▀▄▀█▓▒░ All Gems just 5 alch!!! QUALITY GEMS just 1 alch!!! Последняя редакция: thesikaleon#4679. Время: 6 янв. 2014 г., 10:06:09
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i wanna give a tipp for new players/marauders.
i use Blood magic and i do use mortal conviction. so i can easily cast a hatred aura which is a huge dps boost. at the moment i am at ~4100 healthpoints and the aura takes away about 1000. and its getting better, the reduced mana gem is not maxed yet. since i do have ~ 140 life reg per sec. plus a life leech gem plus passive life leech nodes, i regenerate so fast, the 1000 less hp isn't a problem at all. if i die, i would have died even faster without the dps boost. why am i am doing that? since i do not have 5 or 6 link gear or the money for it. i use 4 link gear. blood magic passive is like an additional socket. if i ever will have the money and a 6 link, i doubt i am going to waste a socket for a blood magic gem. i rather use another dps gem or even 2, and/or a blind gem or a chance to flee gem if needed. i don't really understand, why blood magic + mortal comviction is so underused. its very useful for low budget. |
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Because i dont think is viable mapping to go -hp :(
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I am a newbee player and just hit lvl 60 with my mara. Thank u one more time Ninja Arab this build is very solid and fun. I have some equipment I used when leveling I can give away for free to new players who just start out the game. it is nothing fancy but it helped me during leveling. I will keep these items for a few days and if noone wants them i will just vendor them. u can pm me or find in game - ign : tomaja.
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" it is. it is so viable i can even kill piety, kole or vaal without dying, solo in merciless. and i have, as i said before, the shittiest gear ever, only 4l. |
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