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Really struggling :/
Here are my items.

Any help in getting to 90?

(and yes my cold is 10 below 75 because I am running lower maps right now and want a bit more DPS. when I run tier 10+ I put a weaker dps ring with better cold.






My tree is uses 3 points for extra strength and int, but really at a loss on refining my gear :/
Последняя редакция: KCIV#4077. Время: 22 февр. 2016 г., 00:22:57
Hi, I would like to know if the harbinger build can overdamage the windripper build in any ways?


I currently have this bow atm that i bought. And i also have a voltaxic that someone gave me. If you were to outdamage a windripper build, what do I really need? I really love the TS build.. thats is why.

Thanks alot!
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KCIV написал:
Really struggling :/
Here are my items.

Any help in getting to 90?

(and yes my cold is 10 below 75 because I am running lower maps right now and want a bit more DPS. when I run tier 10+ I put a weaker dps ring with better cold.






My tree is uses 3 points for extra strength and int, but really at a loss on refining my gear :/


A) Replace drillneck with a rare quiver. Drillneck is overrated for TS builds and should not be used. you should replace it with a pure dps setup. No resistance. Haku Life is okay as long as the damage stats are high enough (crit chance, crit multi, WED and possibly attack speed - the first three are the most important ones)
B) Replace Amulet for a rare / other talisman with flat phys, crit chance and crit multi. Besides that amulets are a good spot to get +attributes or STR / INT. You can try to search for a talisman but most likely they suck. Buy a rare.
C) Use "The Retch" instead of faminefeast OR a rare rustic (leather is also okay) with triple res / high life and room for WED enchant or double res, high life, WED and room for a third resist.
D) Replace gloves with Maligaro's OR a better rare. Remember you can enchant attack speed on gloves so find a pair with high life and possibly flat, with a mix of suffixes you want (dual res or 1 res + accuracy)
E) Replace boots. Movement > Life > resists.

I cannot see you chest, jewels and flask setup.

The Retch as a unique is mainly cool if you are using Vinctar or Taste of Hate. It is also useful without them but to have the full effect you want those powerful unique flasks.
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YuriYongWonhiSaranghae написал:
Hi, I would like to know if the harbinger build can overdamage the windripper build in any ways?


I currently have this bow atm that i bought. And i also have a voltaxic that someone gave me. If you were to outdamage a windripper build, what do I really need? I really love the TS build.. thats is why.

Thanks alot!


Hard to say really. Windripper for sure does higher tooltip dps but then again it is pure elemental damage which makes it vulnerable to lightning resist and other map rolls such as elemental equlibrium. Also you are bound to have CoH + Assasins mark setup with windripper, which does not work on curse immune maps.
Also you most likely will invest into Vaal Pact, which leads to blood rage being annoying (at least in my opinion).
You can no longer use puncture traps
Besides I 1-shot packs with split arrow and you 1-shot packs with windripper. Which has the highest clear speed? I do not know.

Morale of story: Different build is different. Both have insane damage and clear speed though, so if you want to try out an elemental bow setup just go ahead.

Also go buy my GG rolled 6L windripper for 10 ex (talisman) :P
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Frankenberry написал:
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KCIV написал:
Really struggling :/
Here are my items.

Any help in getting to 90?

(and yes my cold is 10 below 75 because I am running lower maps right now and want a bit more DPS. when I run tier 10+ I put a weaker dps ring with better cold.






My tree is uses 3 points for extra strength and int, but really at a loss on refining my gear :/


A) Replace drillneck with a rare quiver. Drillneck is overrated for TS builds and should not be used. you should replace it with a pure dps setup. No resistance. Haku Life is okay as long as the damage stats are high enough (crit chance, crit multi, WED and possibly attack speed - the first three are the most important ones)
B) Replace Amulet for a rare / other talisman with flat phys, crit chance and crit multi. Besides that amulets are a good spot to get +attributes or STR / INT. You can try to search for a talisman but most likely they suck. Buy a rare.
C) Use "The Retch" instead of faminefeast OR a rare rustic (leather is also okay) with triple res / high life and room for WED enchant or double res, high life, WED and room for a third resist.
D) Replace gloves with Maligaro's OR a better rare. Remember you can enchant attack speed on gloves so find a pair with high life and possibly flat, with a mix of suffixes you want (dual res or 1 res + accuracy)
E) Replace boots. Movement > Life > resists.

I cannot see you chest, jewels and flask setup.

The Retch as a unique is mainly cool if you are using Vinctar or Taste of Hate. It is also useful without them but to have the full effect you want those powerful unique flasks.



I did tests with replacing drillneck and redoing my passive tree, and the dps was always lower. Mostly because horn gives me such a nice boost to DPS that hasn't been seen by another.

Thanks for the advice though!
> drillneck any day DPS wise.

Just trust me on that one. The strength of drillneck is you utilize pierce chance for your second projectiles from the Tornado Shot. In my opinion it is not worth it compared to the significant "tooltip" dps loss.
The drillneckthing is a bit outdated tbh. Quite decent rare quiver aren't really expensive, while Drillneck isn't exactly cheap. - So not only rare quivers being superior qualitywise, they'll be cheaper more often than not as well. Of course gg rare quivers are a lot more expensive, but that's not the the question anyway, because those are clearly way superior.
Ah, I see, Thank you guys! Ill begin my search.

I assume rare quivers are about chance and multiplier with elemental damage (since PTL)

its odd cuz with my set up now I have 39K dps unbuffed,

but when I switch over to say a decent quiver and respec my skill tree I get around 37k

Maybe I'm not respeccing as well as I think since pierce is still the best option as of now (unless I rebuy many gear slots)

Got it up to 41K unbuffed. though, (finally)
Последняя редакция: KCIV#4077. Время: 22 февр. 2016 г., 17:17:38
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Anavels написал:
Can someone tell me why i'm getting one shot? check my gear:




Was it reflect? In which tier map? Which map-mods? Which boss / mob type? What kind of damage? What level are you? Where you standing in shocked ground? Did you have full life? Did you get hit by lots of small hits in a fast sequence? I could go on.

Judging from your gear you would end up with something close to 4,8k hp (assuming you are lvl 87 with a total of 165% increased life including jewels). I got 5k hp and very few things one shot me.

Most likely you either did something bad like standing in bad stuff or got hit by some tough boss with tough map mods. Neither counts as a 1-shot.

Edit: Also put on 20% quality on your bow :P



i have around 3.9k (got a maligaro's)
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Anavels написал:
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Frankenberry написал:
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Anavels написал:
Can someone tell me why i'm getting one shot? check my gear:




Was it reflect? In which tier map? Which map-mods? Which boss / mob type? What kind of damage? What level are you? Where you standing in shocked ground? Did you have full life? Did you get hit by lots of small hits in a fast sequence? I could go on.

Judging from your gear you would end up with something close to 4,8k hp (assuming you are lvl 87 with a total of 165% increased life including jewels). I got 5k hp and very few things one shot me.

Most likely you either did something bad like standing in bad stuff or got hit by some tough boss with tough map mods. Neither counts as a 1-shot.

Edit: Also put on 20% quality on your bow :P



i have around 3.9k (got a maligaro's)


So assuming you have 130 strength and helped oak you should have 124% increased life from passives / jewels. That is extremely low.

Still you are not really answering any of my questions. What is a 1-shot ? Under which circumstances?

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