[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses
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Nope, echo repeats skill. +1 chain is just like the support gem, except it's +1 instead of +2.
Personally, I don't like much any of them. With +1 arrow, aiming with a single target skill can be sketchy, and with +1 chain, you also lose some control on your single target, for example it could chain on a ripy reflect monster nearby (like atziri clone :s). Blast Rain solves both of these issues though. If I went with Deadeye, I guess I'd chose Endless Munitions however, because this node has more utility (the added accuracy must not be underestimated). The last two points would be for Sharp and Venomous, to help on long fights, but powerful precision match well too, especially if the pierce gem is buffed (I've heard so). edit: on paper, +1 chain provides more hits: LA/GMP/Chain setup with +1 proj: 6*2*3 = 36 hits at most LA/GMP/Chain setup with +1 chain: 5*3*3 = 45 hits at most Split chain with +1 proj: 7*2 = 14 hits Split chain with +1 chain: 6*3 = 18 hits Ranger builds list: /917964 When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch? If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch. Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart... Последняя редакция: Panini_aux_olives#1967. Время: 27 февр. 2016 г., 15:53:30
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" It have more damage modifier now in addition to what it had before. Opens a possibility to go full pierce with drillneck for addition of 100% increased crit chance and 100% increased damage. Like endless munitions with 100% pierce. For Lightning Arrow one chain might be better because it may be enough to skip the chain gem completely (goodbye 31% less damage modifier). It is confirmed that we could relocate the points for 5 regrets each, we can play with the build all we want now. Even more, we can change prestige classes so one can start as a Raider and then become a Deadeye to farm Atziri. Yay |
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That's some good info.
Also, I forgot about dropping chain totally. That's indeed a good idea, worth trying at least. Ranger builds list: /917964
When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch? If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch. Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart... |
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Been thinking about what to do when the new league hits. Want to start as a Scion in the new league to use 2 Ascendency classes. Want to choose Deadeye + Slayer/Inquisistor/Pathfinder. I just want to be a bit tanky so that I don't die that fast and can farm very fast so that I can start the new league with good drops/currency. What do you guys suggest?
My Build so far that I'm working with https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIBm42v6wguAdHtg6JAGY70-ABeoSLTfsSi73p9dZcG7g7-uhmKVvr8xcM6fysNjZu1JIs51DB81opbr4d2hMUPq3b3jX1RR04qIXbjnxa_bWwx-iP2Ps831I2_51RM_4bOSn0mlTY9oJ9Nkr3m7T_UIyT9QzHBM2HinapVhTBx_97awY1-wzNVS2yMpcvdqHTtLlO3tloajDZirEt4BS3Tb3XLidM6Qnrv6mK-p3BSZU29Nl-wykpRTKxHfVsqTT8nSshaUqiam13yl8jcwUn-HXvDR35vnpykhxN3B6fU_sg= What could be done better? IGN: Lnvoker
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regarding ascendancy sub classes, what do you think of assassin/champion for phys bow builds?
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" Deadeye is pretty weak at scion, because it's just "increased" damage and not "more" like at the original-deadeye-tree. I'd say raider is easily the strongest scion-ranger-version. |
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" Can u explain me the difference? So wich class would you suggest. I want good survivalbility and good clear speed. I also want to stack some MF to get currency in the new league. IGN: Lnvoker
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@Invoker33: "increased" damage modifiers stack additively. These 30% are similar to damage increase on tree, ie. if you already have 200% increased damage, you will have 230% with the scion deadeye spec. "more" modifier stack multiplicatively. 30% more really means *1.3 on damage, which is a lot (it's on par with a full support gem).
little example: 80% increased projectile damage 130% increased physical damage with bows. 45% more projectile damage with attack from PPAD bow base hit of 350 dmg. without anything, this will result to 350 * (1 + 0.8 + 1.3) * (1 + 0.45) = 1573.25 with scion deadeye: 350 * (1 + 0.8 + 1.3 + 0.3) * (1 + 0.45) = 1725.5 with ranger deadeye/Far Shot: 350 * (1 + 0.8 + 1.3) * (1 + 0.45) * (1 + 0.3) = 2045.225 "Two very valid options. Champion is probably the way to go for HC variant. I'd use Inspirational for the last points for additional movement speed. Ranger builds list: /917964 When two witches watch two watches, which witch watches which watch? If the witches watching watches watch the same watch while you watch which witch watches which watch, they switch watches; then, the watch switching witches watch which watch you watch. Watching witches watch watches is not for the faint of heart... Последняя редакция: Panini_aux_olives#1967. Время: 28 февр. 2016 г., 06:14:18
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Okay thanks! So what could you suggest? At the moment my ranger on TSC is having good dmg but he has problems with survivalbility. Want a tough, fast clearing ranger that I can stack some MF on. Wich class would be the best for it? And wich tree would you suggest?
IGN: Lnvoker
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" was actually leaning towards champion for softcore, reason is that im trading roughly 32% more life for ~30% more damage or so. and its kind of easier to get damage from other sources instead (lioneyes vision instead of coil/belly, life/dps/dps jewels are more expensive than dps/dps/dps etc). its a bit overkill for low mapping but you can arguably just neglect life nodes early on in the tree while leveling but i imagine itd be pretty sweet for those nasty vaaled t15 maps etc. about assassin, think has more damage total than the ranger trees? i did the math for a voltaxic rift build assuming youre fighting a boss and it came out to be a good 50% more dps, however the dps ended up being very consistent since near 100% crit and cant say how much better knockback would be Последняя редакция: derrurak#3882. Время: 28 февр. 2016 г., 07:16:40
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