[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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_Saranghaeyo_ написал:

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quixtyle написал:

Can anyone PLEASE help me out with my character? I'm currently 67 and am having trouble even farming the docks, no chance of doing even cruel izarro and I'm dying multiple times on even the cavern map (jungle boss is 100% impossible).

In breach, the HC build worked really well and I managed to do quite well into mid-70s multiple times. I decided to follow his new tree and this is just awful.

I'm playing in the SSF league, while forgetting just how much of a PITA it is to get ANY CI viable items without trade. I am mostly worried about having to start my gems from 0 as I am quite a casual player - for the same reason, starting all over isn't really an option.

Any help at all would be monumental, from gear, to anything else. Mostly worried about the skill tree as I don't think going CI was at ALL a good idea. Especially with how out-dated the guide is.

For starters I mentioned already so I'll say it again, that tree is flat out awful and for myself who I consider to be somewhat of a bow veteran, just analyzing the tree is painful as you literally skip out on just about everything that a competing build such as SignalShot has to offer. The pathing makes zero sense and just looks like it was a last minute clobber-together.

That said you should not be going CI as a starter, especially not SSF because of gear availability. Life based always the best if low on resources although the I have doubts about the life tree too.

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ZerotuL написал:

I would go smth like this if i ever play SSF
www.poeurl.com/bcFV

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_Saranghaeyo_ написал:

Lol.

You know SignalShot tree is a Crit ES bow tree right. It doesn't have to bear that name, the concepts are what is important and I guarantee if you do a side by side comparison, if you can comprehend it, you'll see what I'm talking about.

I already said my criticisms on the CI tree in this thread. Why post a WIP, untested tree unless it's a click bait anyways. If you can answer my post on the weaknesses and glaring issues of that tree then we can talk. Let's not fanboy too much.

I'm apparently a troll or noob for applying my knowledge of the game. Surely I've never leveled a bow ranger to 100 before /s

Jesus.

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Unquietheart написал:

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ZerotuL написал:

I would go smth like this if i ever play SSF
www.poeurl.com/bcFV

Hm... similar to what I was thinking honestly.

I have one question though. Wouldn't it be better to take the two extra EV/Life nodes up near Revenge of the Hunted, and skip the two extra ones down near Thick Skin?

The Thick Skin grouping seems weak to me, wasn't it 5% health per minor node during Breach? I can see spending two points to get to Thick Skin itself, but those two extra 4% nodes don't seem like a good deal to me.

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_Saranghaeyo_ написал:

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Rtimusexile написал:

If you were applying knowledge you would know that people change up a few points for POTIONS here and there as they choose an ascendancy. And that this is a tried and true build, that has run to the highest levels for YEARS!

ROFL

I'm done.

This is what this thread has come to.

Read all these complaints and these constant questions about the same, entry-level, simple shit. This is FAR from what the guide was when I started playing.

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_Saranghaeyo_ написал:

NS doesn't even respond to this thread anymore, except for a couple of times and certainly not to questions asked by people here.

Also I gain nothing by doing work "for him," so why would I do that to begin with. I'm not going to hand him over my testing trees, my Path of Building files, or my footage I've recorded. That makes zero sense even for him to just take that from me and use it as his own. I'm not sure what kind of fucked up view of the world you have where you think that is okay.

And the only time I brought up my guide was a comparison of trees. You're making that a much bigger issue here. People come here expecting to play Crit Bow. If you follow through with that on the CI pathing you'll be lucky to get to decent Crit numbers even with a Diamond Flask active. So I'll say it again, if you use the CI tree in this guide, prepare to be disappointed.

It's way more amusing that you have no Rangers past the 70's, especially none that are in endgame, and this must be the best thing since sliced bread for you then. That's adorable.

So stop insulting my content and open your tiny little eyes. Use NS's guide to your hearts content, but attack my content, which has shown that in its current state is updated and tuned to Patch 2.6 levels, something this one hasn't done, and I have a problem with you.

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_Saranghaeyo_ написал:

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livewirejsp написал:

_Saranghaeyo_, you said...

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For starters I mentioned already so I'll say it again, that tree is flat out awful and for myself who I consider to be somewhat of a bow veteran, just analyzing the tree is painful as you literally skip out on just about everything that a competing build such as SignalShot has to offer. The pathing makes zero sense and just looks like it was a last minute clobber-together.

That said you should not be going CI as a starter, especially not SSF because of gear availability. Life based always the best if low on resources although the I have doubts about the life tree too.

Do you have an example of a good tree that you're using? Because I've used this tree, but if there are better alternatives, I'd take a gander, and see what I can change to improve my end game. I'm still doing quite fine with where I am at, but I know once the tier 10 maps hit, i'll have some issues.

If you want to go CI Pathfinder you should be looking at SignalShot. I'm not saying you need that gear level, I farmed on a budget a lot this league with dogshit gear and it wasn't an issue. Just pay attention to the tree concepts.

The issue with this tree is that you are, as the audience, told to take Pathfinder to play this tree but the tree itself has zero flask Nodes outside of Witch flask Nodes. You are told to take Master fucking Herbalist when the "default" gem links in this guide are all PTL-WED. You aren't using Barrage, most powerful single target skill, which ironically works with said poison or Elemental damage.

You skip powerful nodes like King of the Hill in your Crit based bow build. Oh, and Crit chance at an all-time pitiful low. 200% with the Lioneye Fall conversion. Where most trees, say mine have ∼+350% and SignalShot tree has, iirc ∼+400% or more. So even with a 9.4 Crit bow base you literally cannot cap Crit with realistic ES gear. You only really get 2× Diamond Ring and Crit on Amulet. No Rats Nest or Maligaro etc for ES based builds. Starting to see the issue?

I like the hipsterness of the tree. It's something I would never do, because it's honestly just a bad tree, but it looks cool?