2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version

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yissus написал:


i can see 2 things that maybe are the problem...one is that using herald of thunder and the lighting damage of herald wont let you use the benefits of elemental equilibrium...second...the life leech of your physical damage its not important....what its important its the life leech of the discharge and the lighting damage....


Yep I thought about that too. But I haven't taken EE yet on the tree so figured it was okay for a bit. I'm really struggling with the lightning damage life leech though- to buy or craft a dagger better than what I have is really expensive and I have only a few c, and no ex at all. Doryanis would be first choice, but again, need at least 1 ex to get. There are some random ammies out there that might work, but they are all corrupted and usually don't have great stats.
@saxisa For starters you don't have a Topaz Flask for Ele Reflect packs, if you're using EE using herald of thunder will break it so thats another big no no, physical life leech will do practically nothing for you since 1 20th of your damage you are actually doing is physical, all your damage comes from discharges (lightning damage).

People really need to read Mathils guide more carefully before committing to the build. HE DID NOT LEVEL WITH IT. You are missing so many crucial parts of the build. Vaal Pact with Life Leech Gem or Lightning Leech makes it apply instantly so everytime you discharge you heal for a substantial amount and makes you pretty much unkillable to reflect, especially if you have a topaz flask.

Also another thing to note is that unless you're planning on killing atziri, replace the guides Ruby Flask (Fire Resistance) with a Granite flask to help out with the big hitting melee monsters etc.
Последняя редакция: Perrydtf#3622. Время: 27 дек. 2014 г., 01:11:37
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Perrydtf написал:
@saxisa For starters you don't have a Topaz Flask for Ele Reflect packs, if you're using EE using herald of thunder will break it so thats another big no no, physical life leech will do practically nothing for you since 1 20th of your damage you are actually doing is physical, all your damage comes from discharges (lightning damage).

People really need to read Mathils guide more carefully before committing to the build. HE DID NOT LEVEL WITH IT. You are missing so many crucial parts of the build. Vaal Pact with Life Leech Gem or Lightning Leech makes it apply instantly so everytime you discharge you heal for a substantial amount and makes you pretty much unkillable to reflect, especially if you have a topaz flask.

Also another thing to note is that unless you're planning on killing atziri, replace the guides Ruby Flask (Fire Resistance) with a Granite flask to help out with the big hitting melee monsters etc.

Well don't mean to be picky, but it's somewhat ironic that you didn't read my post too carefully before implying I hadn't read Mathils guide. I did say I have NOT taken EE yet, so herald of thunder will not break it. Also, I know I need lightning life leech- that's what I said. It's not cheap to get man. And I DO have vall pact.

Bottom line- I have read his guide. And need lightning life leech but it's tough to get if you are poor. Work in progress.


Lv.86
4950 HP
Res capped
90% accuracy
52% charge-less crit
75ish-80% crit with 6 charges
152 int (barely enough to run lv 20 int gems that have 151 req)
242 str
263 dex

My dagger is pretty terrible and I have a 6s voll's sitting in stash that just won't 6l.
All that aside, I'm still going to attempt atziri soon. Ditching Saffel's really gave me a huge boost to HP and damage, I mean huge. 1 discharge just deletes exiles and rares. The life leech and topaz flask make me take almost no dmg from reflect.
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Последняя редакция: Gensou#7487. Время: 27 дек. 2014 г., 03:07:49
@Gensou I read some where that the bonus resist Saffells gives is like a 25 percent dmg reduction to elemental damage, meaning atziri is really going to hurt, wouldn't mind you posting back after you've tried it, interested to see how you go without the shield. I pondered for a long time dropping it and buying a Rathpith Globe but changed my mind when I read about the huge dmg reduction having that extra max resist gives.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Rathpith_Globe

@saxisa For the record champ, when I posted my reply I hadn't seen your follow up post saying you didn't have EE. Everything else I said is relevant. Don't come in here complaining about the spec if you aren't even following it or complain about the responses given when you're asking for critique,

TLDR;
You have no proper leech like the guide suggests (not even the alternate of a life leech gem)
You're trying to level as a spec that wasn't really intended to be leveled as, no CoC build is as it requires higher levels of crit
You have the wrong flasks, not even a granite/jade or topaz when you're saying damage is a problem for you
Последняя редакция: Perrydtf#3622. Время: 27 дек. 2014 г., 04:02:59
how viable is this build bloodlines?

also why acro and not phase acro?
Последняя редакция: mayainverse#1488. Время: 28 дек. 2014 г., 02:33:45
Single target high HP bosses are still giving me trouble with this build since we can no longer "lockon" to a target anymore, any ideas how to combat this?
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Jcr982 написал:
Single target high HP bosses are still giving me trouble with this build since we can no longer "lockon" to a target anymore, any ideas how to combat this?

why cant you lock on?

and you can use double strike works fine. its important to realize this is not a cyclone/discharge build but rather it is a critical strike dagger build with a bit of elemental damage. you can use a lot of different things that will still work with this build.
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SlainerOfNoobs написал:
I have been using this build as a Scion because I had one already leveled to 67. Currently level 88.

This is my v1.3 105 point build, it's very similar to the original:





IMPROVED
I haven't done a very in-depth analysis, but iirc I have gained crit chance, spell/ele dmg. Instead of going for the nerfed Barbarism, I will now include the Inner Force cluster at 88, where previously I was waiting til 91.

EDIT: I probably gained a small amount of crit chance because on 1.2 I don't have the last shadow crit node under Assassination. I currently have 1 point in a +30 int node, but with the int +20 I'm getting from Sanctity + Retribution, I will no longer need it.

DEGRADED
Went from ~165% inc life down to 147%. With Barbarism I could get up to 155%, but with the nerf I think IF is a much more valuable investment with this build.

The templar illuminati triangle nodes are very attractive, but this build already has so much damage I don't really think it's necessary. My goal for level 90 will be buying or chancing a Voll's D, then VP.

Gear-wise, besides Voll's D, my priority is to craft an end-endgame dagger that includes 60%+ spell dmg, 20%+ atk spd, 30%+ crit chance, 1% LL w/ Lightning .



At the time of posting this I was not aware of the change to how fast cyclone hits, so after some playing I found this build with Berserking and different starting nodes to be closer to my original dps. Still only at about 4200 life without barbarism though.

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I tried another build for a bit, ST CoC/EE/block/EB/MoM, but the damage just isn't there no matter how I rework passives/gear/gems. I'm coming back to this build now.

I got a vagan dagger now and a bunch of extra crit gear from ST build, so I'm going to see if I can rework my gear to include more life/dps. Maligaro's is a nice fantasy but I just don't see it working out for life/res. Still really need a voll's devotion to kick the build into super saiyan or whatever that dbz shit was.
Hello,

Why you don't take phase acrobatics ??

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