[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

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sutasafaia написал:

Char: Toujin

Hey, love the build so far, not sure where to go from my current position though. My gear feels underwhelming but I'm not sure if there are any easy upgrades to pick up right now. I can't even begin to use Cyclone yet, feels too underwhelming since I can't CoC, which you did warn us about in the guide. Despite my gear feeling lacking though I seem to be having zero trouble clearing with blade vortex, but I see mention of having 1000+ ES at my level and I just can't seem to find worthwhile gear to do it. Is it something I should be pushing for if I'm not currently having any issues?

My links are bad, I know, I just throw gems in to level them since I can't seem to find any effective links yet. At least I got warlords mark and blasphemy setup. The one good thing I have going is maxed resists and a ton of IIQ.

Also, ignore the +phys crafted on my wand, I'm an idiot, thought it would increase BV's damage =/

If i were you i would grab the dagger crit nodes near CI, buy a widowmaker, and 4L your Goldrim with Cyclone + COC + Bladefall + Inc crit.

That should get you going since you are using warlord's mark.

Also grab a Diamond Flask it will help immensely.

But this is if you want to jump into COC right now if you are having no issues just keep leveling and make the switch too CoC around level 60-70 as Zwei states

@sutasafaia

I guess it could work even better if you would link the bladevortex to any kind of support gem.

Can also try to get the upgraded revebration rod from the prophecy its pretty cheap and a good 6L Wand for leveling with Blade Vortex.

What Azazelx53 said is also a option.

@Qwaza

You can get 60% Crit from Diamond Rings.

I am at 60.28% crit without charges, if i take off my Diamond Ring i drop to 58.06 so one Diamond is a bit more than 2% crit.

@zwei



I did what you said and got these two daggers, which would you use? The sheet dps is lower on the vagan mod dagger.

Those two are what i'm going to have to deal with as I save up for a Vertex.

@Griff112: We don't care about DPS on dagger, we almost don't do dmg with our weapon. Use Vagan, because hits can't be evaded and hiher crit chance.

Thats my gear so far. Im level 66 but i feel like my damage is pretty inconsistent. Any tips on what i should do to improve. I know i have to get better jewellery but ive got little currency and id rather spend it on fixing my damage since im already full res.

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ZweihundertMorder написал:

Lots of stuff to reply to, i try to answer everything, if i forgot anything plz ask again!

@Griff112

Get a Vagan Mod Dagger. The slow bases are not expensive at all anymore in Prophecy.

Try to reroll your Chest for a ES roll and get a Helmet with more ES.

Thats the first things i would upgrade.

@Shnayzr

Your Spells are not leveld. See FAQ Questions.

@Qwaza

You will get 40% Crit from Quality on CoC and ICS.

If you feel like your Crit is to low you can also use Maligaros or buy a Dagger with higher Base Crit. (Kris/Demon Dagger)

Using a Diamond Flask is also a option.

Allways try to cast your cyclone as short as possible. Attacks roll crit once on activation, not per enemy hit. So if you cast along cyclone and it rolls non crit, every hit of that cycloen will be non crit until you recast it.

Thats the effect that ressiv talked about.

Wow thanks for that advice lol
Didnt know about that.

@Griff112

What DemoN_M4U said. DPS on Cyclone Tooltip does nothing.

If you really want to check your DPS use TheCoCulator

@asbo96

You can Spec out of the ES Node at Witch Start (the one with Mana Reg) and the 4% mana Reservation node at influence.

You only need the 4% node once you spec out of Charisma and use a enlighten.

I also don´t get why you are using Elreon Amulet and Ring, you are Trickster all the skills you use cost no mana.

Get a Amulet with Crit Chance and Crit multi on it and get a Diamond ring. The current Elreon pieces don´t have any stats on them so it should be easy and cheap to get upgrades there.

Amulets can have 38% Crit Chance and a Diamond Ring will give you 30%, making your damage more consistent.

Apart from that start using a Diamond Flask it helps a ton for leveling.

Another option is to get a Vagan Dagger with higher Base Crit (Kris / Demon Dagger)

The Base Crit is a really big deal and even 1% more base Crit will boost your Crit Chance by alot.

Then you could also buy a slightly higher leveld Bladefall. I would by a lvlv 19 one when you hit level 68.

Hi, another question: why would we need attack speed? Cyclone does not cost mana for us, we can constantly spam cyclone initial strike in front of us and get higher procs per second without having to worry of attack speed. This will also reroll cyclone crit chance as mentioned above which is also desired. Quicksilver flask of adrenaline would scale the damage to the sky.

What's even better, we can use slow dagger bases with higher crit chance (both local and global), the best would be Copper/Gold/Platimum Kris in this case.

This kind of scaling Cyclone is the reason why it now has "First hit deal 50% less damage", but this has nothing to do with procced spels... or has it? If it has, the whole statement is false.

@donalgraeme

Yep exactly what you said and exactly why i don´t go out of my way to get Attack Speed on the Tree.

I just don´t use a Quicksilver as i find its near impossible to stick to a single target with that very high move speed and its hard to controll if you gain and lose movespeed with Flask use.

At least for me its not possible to play that way for single target and when i tried to use it in the Splitphase on Uber i died everytime i did it because i could not stick close enough.

But yes, overall you are 100% right.

Just rerolled the build after my pizzablast , and its totally broken , as good as discharge id say but way more tanky currently having 8K8 es with some mediocre items and only lvl 79 , didn't died once since i started mapping , just cyclone and wrecking everything in t9/t10

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