Poison and Point Blank (Double Dip?)

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Col_Jessep написал:

Btw, are any of you using Poison with EK?
I tried a quick 6-link in a Tabula with Poison but it didn't seem to be worth the additional mana cost. I got some increase to projectile and chaos damage in my tree but it looked just lackluster.

I did shavs low life poison EK at the very start of the league. Links were EK, life leech, added fire, spell echo, poison, and controlled destruction. I also used pyre and consuming dark so 75% of my added fire and hatred were converted. I am not sure if that is the best set up, or even efficient but I had 60k tooltip and more than double that in poison.

I switched the main spell and supports over to bladefall later on, which does...more

Poison and Point Blank does double dip (you won't see point blank in EK tho, as it's an attack).

You normally deal 100 physical damage and 10 poison damage for 2 seconds. So total damage is 120.

Point Blank increases that damage to 150 phys and

(15 + 0.50 * 15) = 22.5 chaos d/s.

So total damage is 195.

If poison is applied by an AoE ability, poison will benefit from AoE modifiers as well (like conc effect).

I discovered this will diddling around with fireball and consuming dark (see sig). Any modifiers that influence the area damage and projectile damage will contribute to ignite and poison damage again.

EDIT: I'm wrong!
The explicit use of the word "attack" in Point Blank does not apply a boost if poison acted like ignite (ignite receives no benefit from spell and attack modifiers). However any and all other projectile modifiers that don't specific "attack" or "spell" will still affect poison damage.

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Cerest написал:

Poison and Point Blank does double dip (you won't see point blank in EK tho, as it's an attack).

Again, Poison is not an Attack, so no, Point Blank does not double-dip. For the exact same reason. To say nothing that Point Blank only scales Physical damage, and Poison is not Physical damage.

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XCodesLIVE написал:

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Cerest написал:

Poison and Point Blank does double dip (you won't see point blank in EK tho, as it's an attack).

Again, Poison is not an Attack, so no, Point Blank does not double-dip. For the exact same reason. To say nothing that Point Blank only scales Physical damage, and Poison is not Physical damage.

this is what happens when you merge Gameplay help with discussion.. Everyone saying something different, no chance for new player to determine who actually knows what he speaks about

again, point blank says "projectile ATTACKS". damage over time is NEVER attack damage

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Ludvator написал:

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XCodesLIVE написал:

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Cerest написал:

Poison and Point Blank does double dip (you won't see point blank in EK tho, as it's an attack).

Again, Poison is not an Attack, so no, Point Blank does not double-dip. For the exact same reason. To say nothing that Point Blank only scales Physical damage, and Poison is not Physical damage.

this is what happens when you merge Gameplay help with discussion.. Everyone saying something different, no chance for new player to determine who actually knows what he speaks about

again, point blank says "projectile ATTACKS". damage over time is NEVER attack damage

From Bex_GGG

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If Poison is linked to a Projectile attack does "increased projectile damage" also increase poison damage?

In this case, the Projectile Damage will also increase the Poison damage, meaning the bonus will apply twice if the poison is applied by a projectile.

The explicit use of the word "attack" in Point Blank does not apply a boost if it acted like ignite (ignite receives no benefit from spell and attack modifiers). However any and all other projectile modifiers that don't specific "attack" or "spell" will still affect poison damage.