[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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jabberjabber2 написал:

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xxLucifielxx написал:

I had no problems farming dried lake when I used the spell echo version of the build. I'd suggest switching over to CwC+SR though if it feels slow to you. It really speeds things up even more imo. Especially without spell echo keeping you stuck in place. With CwC+SR you can cast and move if need be.

I also noticed your int on your gear is pretty low. I'd suggest upgrading them if you have the currency for it. I know a lot of es gear has sky rocketed though.

Thanks, I'll try it out. I noticed that you have 3 curses: warlord's mark, enfeeble, and temporal chains, however, you only use the +1 curse passive and not the +1 ring. Does that mean one of the curses is going to waste since enemies can only have 2 curses for you?

I've been running around with perandus to test how it works for me. I personally don't notice much difference with 1 curse not being active because of how fast things generally die, but as with all things I feel like it comes down to how you like to play.

I've been wanting to do this new Hall of Grandmasters for quite a while and figure out how to deal with the new version of mull_gubben and others. Got it done now, cleared it about 20 times to make sure I met and killed every one of those fuckers, repeatedly. Turned out there are only 2 special enemies there.

This is on my league Berserker, the Witch should actually have an easier time because of much higher resist penetration and elemental defenses.

New video: Hall of Grandmasters deathless full clear (Berserker)

Hall of Grandmasters is an awesome farm area IF you can clear it (hint: it drops sac frags and cards from Apex of Sacrifice/Alluring Abyss). It was very easy before 2.4 but then it got major upgrades and became much harder. Still, with some practice it can be cleared relatively easily with this build.

Bring flasks against everything: curse, ignite, shock, freeze, bleed. Chemist Sulphur (15/60) is the best because you don't get a lot of charges there, and the extra damage buff is nice.


Use AoE instead of CE. Area coverage and leech is really important there, tooltip damage is not.


Pre-cast Icestorm at the center point of each wave before triggering it. If there are statues: take 1 step forward to trigger the wave and move behind a statue. If no statues: leap forward to apply the curses faster.

Almost everything dies quickly, although in waves 9-10 they can sometimes get a lucky crit and 1-shot you before dying. But there are two special cases:

Kriath (wave 5-6): very strong CWDT retalliation with Fireball (MTX), Ethereal Knives (MTX) and Freezing Pulse. If you are not behind a statue, get away quickly. He is easy to kill from a distance and usually dies to the pre-cast Icestorms.

mull_gubben (wave 9-10): max block, impossible to leech from, destroys you with CWDT abilities for hitting him. DO NOT HIT HIM. Get away as fast as you can and kill him with Scorching Ray unlinked from Icestorm (no CwC). I bring a swap staff just for mull_gubben:

For uberlab better cwc sr or pure ice storm?

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PaintMaster написал:

For uberlab better cwc sr or pure ice storm?

Either way is fine for Uber Lab. I prefer CwC because it lets you pre-cast 14 Icestorms (5 sec / 0.35) without running out of mana and kill Izaro instantly in the final trial. But it's easy enough even with SE.

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PaintMaster написал:

For uberlab better cwc sr or pure ice storm?

It doesn't matter. Whichever is more comfortable for you. If you have the ES to tank Izaro, then Scorching Ray is probably more damage. If you need to be moving around, then Ice Storm by itself is probably better.

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Kelvynn написал:

New video: Hall of Grandmasters deathless full clear (Berserker)

Hall of Grandmasters is an awesome farm area IF you can clear it (hint: it drops sac frags and cards from Apex of Sacrifice/Alluring Abyss). It was very easy before 2.4 but then it got major upgrades and became much harder. Still, with some practice it can be cleared relatively easily with this build.

neat video!
do you often get oneshot by danziGG?

waow, i made it playable with the frames, just was the inc aoe & faster casting i played around with, made a mix of your build and https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1788023/page/1
just can say, damn awesome stuff! mapping with dying sun (extra aoe + 2 projectiles) & incinerate in a CwC Setup is just too lovely!

even bought me a 6S 5L chest with int for some more tuning, just missing a int crystal belt atm :/

in my chest i love the 5L setting OoS-culling-CoH-enfeeble/flammabilty-rarity in the 1 unlinked socket i got arctic armor

Helmet (Black sun crest with 34 inc IC duration) => 3R1B | Cwdt lv1 + IC lv3 & blaspehmy warlords mark
Boots 3R 1B Cwdt lv20, ice+firegolem & molten shell lv20!

love the look of molten shell :)

came from a selfcast sparker who cleared t15/16 without any problem
but all i can say this here is even more burst if not twice on bosses,
the clearspeed of inquistor sparker cant be beaten, but enjoying the times with my witch ♥

thinking about getting a shavs 6L and maybe some auras with bloodmagic, or will we have to less ES then since helmet got none & no shield?

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Kelvynn написал:

mull_gubben (wave 9-10): max block, impossible to leech from, destroys you with CWDT abilities for hitting him. DO NOT HIT HIM. Get away as fast as you can and kill him with Scorching Ray unlinked from Icestorm (no CwC). I bring a swap staff just for mull_gubben:

Ahhhh.... now I know why there was that one last guy who kept killing me.
Everything else was a breeze, but I lost the map because him (I presume).

Kelvynn, did I already say this build/guide is amazing? If not, then thank you!

Hey there Kelvynn, your guides are awesome (this one, and the adaptations for other classes). I started this build as my second on in Breach Hardcore without too much currency to spend but your leveling guide made it doable. I have some questions concerning this build in hardcore.

First of all, do you think enfeeble with CwDT ball lightning is reliable enough for hardcore? Is there any way I can run enfeeble with blasphemy? (Maybe with enlighten and Heretic's Veil) Would this setup be better than to run Arctic Armour and have occasional enfeebles up?


I know that the Black Sun Crest provides lots of damage and it gives us some Energy Shield from the int, but wouldn't I be better for Hardcore with a high es helm? I don't have the currency to try it out.


Lastly, is going for the Unwavering Stance the safest way to play this build? I was wondering if maybe getting practical application I could be safe from stuns and get more energy shield nodes from the tree.


Thanks for your time, just an inexperienced player here trying to keep playing this awesome build in the hardcore league :)

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Inthemist_ написал:

First of all, do you think enfeeble with CwDT ball lightning is reliable enough for hardcore? Is there any way I can run enfeeble with blasphemy? (Maybe with enlighten and Heretic's Veil) Would this setup be better than to run Arctic Armour and have occasional enfeebles up?

Because the CWDT setup is level 1, and the build is played in relatively close range, and the coverage you get with ball lightning, literally every mob will be cursed.

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Inthemist_ написал:

I know that the Black Sun Crest provides lots of damage and it gives us some Energy Shield from the int, but wouldn't I be better for Hardcore with a high es helm? I don't have the currency to try it out.

Damage=leech=survivability. Ultimately, getting 9-10K ES with Black Sun is not very hard. Most all of our ES scaling comes from int (1500 int= 300% increased ES... which is a lot).

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Inthemist_ написал:

Lastly, is going for the Unwavering Stance the safest way to play this build? I was wondering if maybe getting practical application I could be safe from stuns and get more energy shield nodes from the tree.

You definitely need some form of stun immunity. The int we get on the way down to Unwavering makes it SUPER efficient, since it is 100% damage AND ES. It looks like you are going way out of your way, but because of Brute Force Solution jewels, almost all of that strength gets converted to int.