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" Thats true for Australia and the US. How about Romania and Germany, they both use the same Gateway, but Romania is a lot less wealthy (even way behind russia) compared to germany. Or how about Mexico and the US, same issue, Mexico again even less rich than russia, and right next to an incredible wealthy country. There wouldn't be any reason to pretend to be caribean or mexican and still play on the US gateways. Same for central europe. " Again you are purely looking at russia here. Why should they be treated any different than other poor countries, and for most of those it's a lot harder. Exspecially for those that are members of the EU (mostly the south eastern countries), you could be a romanian living and working in germany, earning a lot of money (exspecially IT education in romania is really good, so we got a lot of romanian IT experts here) and they could just pretend to be romanian, because technically they are. The game could do with a bit more low budget stuff. Although I assume that most people are more interested in premium stashs. A could thing would be to provide a really cheap paket to upgrade the regular stashs into premium stashs. |
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"As I said, GGG hasn't been putting servers in areas with weak currencies. The reason Russian players currently use a server in Germany is there's no server in eastern Europe or anywhere in Asia that I can tell. You might say "Russia doesn't have enough playerbase to justify the cost" but that's a self-fulfilling prophecy, because with an atrocious ping and MTX prices which don't line up with economic realities, if it wasn't for Garena there'd probably be barely any Russian players at all. And in the specific case of Russia, it's more than far enough away from Germany to not qualify as the same region. There are servers in London and Amsterdam, to give an idea of current European coverage. I will admit, though, that huge economic disparities between nearby countries is an issue which my gateway-limiting suggestion wouldn't touch. Still, it's false to say GGG would need to price on a global scale, when the appropriate term is regional. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Последняя редакция: ScrotieMcB#2697. Время: 5 сент. 2016 г., 13:04:07
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If you're going to lower prices so that poorer people can buy things, in what way is regional fair? There are richer and poorer people all over the world. Charging regional prices is just as unfair as charging global prices if the goal is to adjust for wealth. Why should a rich person in a poor country get a better deal than a poor person in a rich country?
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This isn't social justice, mark. It's economics. As a seller, you maximize profits selling your product at a price which reflects local economic conditions.
Now because capitalism is awesome and the invisible hand of Adam Smith is real, this would benefit some players. But I don't expect GGG to act as a charity. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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" Yeah but then why should you do that in russia but not in romania? Romania has a stronger currency mostly because its part of the EU, while others like bulgaria even bind their currency somewhat to the Euro. Latvia, despite being economically similar in income to russia even has the euro. All of those countries are as weak or even weaker than russia. One of the big issues with russia is that its income equality is very high. Most people in siberia or the caucasian regions of russia earn a lot more. If you look only at the european part of russia the average income is a lot higher. If you further look at the area from St. Petersburg to Moscow it rises again. And those people don't really need subsidies, they aren't as wealthy as people from Germany or the US, but they might match Spain. And considering infrastructure I would guess that most of PoEs russian players actually are from this area. So the big issue here is that providing special pricing to them isn't any more necessary then to all the other people around the world. There are less fortunate people in every country, exspecially in some of the more liberal ones like the US, which don't have the social securaty networks like germany has. |
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" damn that's a lot of politic for a video game :( |
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" Prior to Garena leaving Russia there were four server locations: Moscow Novosibirsk Almaty Vladivostok Those locations pretty much covered the country and Kazakhstan (Almaty). Now, with the servers back under GGG, there's only one location, Moscow. The bizarre thing is, GGG chose to go with a Russian hosting provider that only seems to cover the Western part of the country. As far as Asia is concerned, there's Singapore, but don't forget Garena still exists there and there's also Tencent who are hosting PoE in China. I guess if GGG wanted to extend the International realm to East Asia they could use the Softlayer DCs in Tokyo or Seoul, which is a new location. Also don't forget Africa, there's no local servers there either. The nearest Softlayer DC is probably Chennai but as far as I know players in Africa use European gateways. |
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"I didn't factcheck your information, but I was probably using old information myself (I'm just an armchair American). Thank you for the corrections. Maybe someone in Germany could test pings (Frankfurt vs Moscow) to see how viable Moscow-regional MTX discounts would be. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Последняя редакция: ScrotieMcB#2697. Время: 5 сент. 2016 г., 20:25:43
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" Average latency from EU locations to Moscow is around 45ms. Average latency to EU locations from the EU is around 10/15ms. That will depend on ISP routing and practices but it's close. From Vladivostok to Moscow is around 120ms and to Frankfurt around 160ms. |
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" Almost everything is regional. Pharmaceuticals, movies, games etc the richer countries pay more than poorer ones. Thats why when you buy a DVD in Thailand you cant watch in USA I consider myself an accident of geography. I don't work for less than $100 an hour here in great USA (i drive heavy equipment a menial job but I own all the equipment)Crane will cost you $200 an hour. So I don't mind paying more. Russians and others should pay less to reflect income. Git R Dun! Последняя редакция: Aim_Deep#3474. Время: 5 сент. 2016 г., 22:45:04
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