[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist
" " Hello :) Harvey said is well. Build relies on so many hard to self find unique items, that I cant really recommend it for SSF. Part of leveling can maybe be used as it relies on zombies and Specters, which you can get from passives. If you happen to have Bones of Ullr in SSF already, you can try to maybe cook some kind of summoner from the build base. For HC, I can't really recommend it but some players have tried it and reached even lvls over 95+. However they have heavily modified the build, so default setup could be too low on defense for HC. However I have heard that occultist variant is very relaxing to play as MF farmer in HC, if you don't enter too high maps. You can run any mods and focus mostly on collecting loot thanks to huge ES regen and 10k+ EHP (HP + ES) " Hey :) Wow, that's great to hear! \o/ Do you mean at what point minion life gem would win other support in DPS boost with new Rathpith? Normally minion life support is taken to make sure that Specs stay alive in boss fights even when they are not max tier. However with Soul Weaver, Necromancer doesn't really need the support that much. You can already swam Golems to helmet and Specs to armor, but Golems scale easier with levels of gem. Especially if you happen to have +1 corrupted Sotl, I would not swap them. With Tabula rasa or normal Sotl, you can check with PoB which setup gives more total DPS from the Specs. [3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f Последняя редакция: mika2salo#7776. Время: 1 июня 2019 г., 18:36:19
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" Oh yes, I think I mostly thought that having the flame golems in a 7-link helm of Conc Effect + Minion Damage + Minion Life instead of having them in a Skin of the Loyal. It likely wouldn't be as good as a corrupted +1 Skin of the Loyal but it might be far more easily attainable in league for players not rolling in currency. I'm sure SotL will pull ahead once you start talking about lvl 4 empowers and 21/20 flame golems but again, not everybody ever gets to that point of gear. It does potentially then open up the chest slot as well to some other options. Hopefully the ES changes to items mentioned in the Dev Manifesto aren't too severe. Since the Skin of the Loyal requires having high ES elsewhere on your gear I guess this will hurt the build a modest amount in terms of survivability. Again, more for players who aren't able to afford the top-end bits. Seems like MoM is also getting "adjusted" so using that as an alternative early on may even be pretty bad now too. At least if the ES spell caster meta is getting pretty drastically hit in this patch I now have some hope that Rathpith won't be ridiculously expensive!! Последняя редакция: DrHarvey12#0114. Время: 4 июня 2019 г., 2:44:37
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" Hey Mika, I remembered you asked about how I was getting on with trying that MF golemancer. Anyway, league ended so spent the little currency I had on a chest for the WiP character I had and then cannibalized some older MF gear from other characters. All stuff bought cheaply in legacy league mostly.
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I mostly run low tier maps so it's just for running some map layouts I like at the end of a league or when I get bored of the temp league. A bit more info below for you Mika:
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Currently sitting at 135% increased quantity and 165% increased rarity. Not really min-maxed at all; especially for Std but with the exception of the item quantity gem everything I would have picked up in various temp leagues when prices were pretty low. I think the Bisco's Collar was 18 chaos! I don't have a shaped quant amulet but I actually quite like the Biosco's here. I didn't think adding an extra 10% quant makes such a big difference when you already have over 100% and since I always need stuff like chisels, alch's, sextants having an extra 100% quant (235% total) vs normal mobs actually adds up to quite a bit of extra basic ccy. Hopefully the odd exalt drop as well every so often too ;) ! Damage isn't super special, a little over 100k vs map boss. Like I say, this is just a basic mapping character and I won't be bossing on it. I'm trying to gear up a bossing golemancer as my next project. This one just uses a couple of carnage / host chieftains for frenzy's & powwer charges. Around 3.5k life & 5k energy shield so not super tanky - doesn't really need to be though. Chaos damage is a bit scary but I have an amethyst flask so if I see it in time I might be ok! That's pretty much it. I doubt I will be doing more to her. It looks like upgrades start getting pricey now and I really want to use this character to make me some currency rather than being a massive currency sink. Just wanted to say thx again for the advice you have given me regarding getting this character built over what must be the past year or so now. It's helped a lot! Good luck in the new league!! |
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" Hello :) I will be doing some Helmet <-> Armor swap testing when we get patch notes out. Leveling varies per person, so in some cases it makes lot of sense and others less. For example if you can get Anima stone + Harmonies early on the league but don't have currency for Sotl. Then it makes sense to put Main skill in 6-7 link helmet. But if you can get jewels and Sotl at about same time, it becomes trickier. It depends on gems level, access to high tier Specters, support in helmet that you can get, etc. Best way to check is using PoB imports and check the damage. Golems in armor and Specs in helmet is pretty much safety line for good placement. GGG has given access to pretty high tier ES crafting per item, so I'm not that worried about ES nerf. If Sotl gets to about flat 200 ES range, Vis Mortis luckily works nearly as good. +1 Spec balances 20% damage loss from Sotl +1 level nicely. +1 corrupt Vis is about same as Sotl ATM, but with +1 Spec added. I'm also hoping that Rathpith will be cheap to test out the new Necromantic Aegis :P " Hi :) That's very nice gear! With about 100% quantity, there is significant change on currency drops from map already. But your right that upgrading from your point will cost a lot. It's like you put X currency to Q / R and start running. After a while you want to upgrade but X = X2, so you need to grind for double cost. After you get significant upgrade you grind again and next upgrade is X4 but increase is much smaller. It's kinda endless cycle. Thanks! Good luck for the league as well o/ So far info about league has been pretty good. Necromancer - Necromancer Aegis included in the Ascendancy now - Rathpith potentially very powerful DPS boost for the build - Access to Wicked Ward (ES regen won't stop from damage) Occultist - Wicked Ward removed from Ascendancy but added to skill-tree as own node (close to path, so Necromantic Aegis node will most likely go there. Some other goodies coming to old Wicked Ward most likely so buff?) - Necromantic Aegis removed (some DPS lost, but shield will give tons of EHP [HP + ES] now) Elementalist - Access to Wicked Ward (ES regen won't stop from damage) - Necromantic Aegis removed (some DPS lost, but shield will give tons of EHP [HP + ES] now) - Boss shocking was removed (Build doesn't use it, so doesn't affect it) UPDATE GGG changed Flame Golems projectiles, so they don't cause FPS drops anymore! [3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f Последняя редакция: mika2salo#7776. Время: 4 июня 2019 г., 8:50:34
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How excited are you for Rathpith testing this league Mika? It looks absolutely amazing for flame golems/TVs.
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" Hello :) I'm pretty excited for the Rathpith as it seems to be amazing DPS boost. GGG also fixed standard stash tabs after 2 years, so I can continue pushing delve deeper. Golems projectiles don't lag anymore, so GGG pretty much fulfilled my wishes. If Rathpith works, I might even try Flame Golems + Solar Guards as they can also crit compared to Tukohamas. 4x Flame Golems + 4x SGs should be pretty devastating damage with Rathpith. I guess Nerco Aegis could replace Puppet Master if it's not added as it's own new node. Puppet is pretty much placeholder atm for something useful. It could also be gated behind Mistress of Sacrifice, which would make nice chain as it would first give 50% block chance from Bone Offering and then extra block from Necro Aegis? How do you feel about multi-strike changes with Ice Golems? Slowing the attack speed bonus will lower DPS somewhat, but I don't think as much as it might seem at first. Ice Golems can 1-shot normal mobs even in high tier maps, so slower attack wont slow clear speed that much. They are, however 100% dependent on multi-strike for their functionality. If they don't have multi-strike, they won't chain multiple cartwheels and their horrible AI will start casting projectiles and whatnot between cartwheels. I guess GGG won't be touching multi-strikes functionality when linked to Ice Golems, so they should still be safe. Removing NA from non-Necro variants will slow both their movement and attack speed, so Haste should be excellent aura to support them with Generosity. However for Necro variant I think I will be replacing Haste with Temporal Chains + Enhance + Blasphemy. The setup is just too good to pass and without it enemy / whole pack can leap attack offscreen and kill instantly. Aspect if Spider works well with Temp Chains as bosses have reduction to TC, but aspect works better against them. [3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f Последняя редакция: mika2salo#7776. Время: 4 июня 2019 г., 13:16:30
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" I think we'll have to wait and see what happens with multistrike support. The extra damage on successive hits is good and hopefully a fair tradeoff for the lost attack speed multipliers, as long as they can't cancel out of the animation to cast an icicle should be okay. If they start casting breaking out of the attack animation for cyclone however, then they are completely dead as a build. The icicle just does nothing and every moment they spend doing it is completely worthless. If NA does move to Necro Elementalists will be playing the Bow version of the build with Maloney's which is still fine, just much harder to hit necessary movement speed nodes. The plus side is you get 3 more jewels to work with. If anything i'm more concerned about the shock nerf. We are exactly the type of build that this nerf was aimed at. Getting a free 20% more multiplier and proliferation from a storm brand gem and a point in beacon of ruin with no other investment into spell/elemental damage. I expect the elementalist versions will be better off going paragon of calamity now for the extra defense. I'll be playing the Necro variant this league to give it a feel, will be interesting to see what kind of hybrid tree can be made with access to wicked ward on the main tree. With the new +flat es -%es and extra es wheel on the upper left changes they mentioned skin of the loyal gets a slight buff. It may even be worth going ES as elementalists now too and taking zealot's oath to apply stone aura buffs to your ES, we'll just have to see what the tree looks like. I am also going to give fire golems a try at some point this league to see how it feels with the projectile changes. Multiple league buffs in a row they seem to be in a much better place than they were in 3.5. I agree solar guards+flame golems looks really strong. They both benefit from projectile weakness as well but i'm not sure it's worth losing the defensive curse. Последняя редакция: Utopian238#5973. Время: 4 июня 2019 г., 20:43:57
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Well, Witch start ES nodes just got destroyed! :(
Rather than giving increased ES they now give 10 flat ES. I guess that you will just path through the minion nodes now or just come out the right hand side. However that is effectively a loss of 38% increased ES. However, other ES nodes seem to be unchanged. The new ES nodes by Witch / Templar seem lackluster being 5% ES + 8% mana for us. Notable is 10% / 10%. Not sure we would pick them up unless having the extra mana made casting golems viable through stacked aura's. Anyway, it's definitely a bit of a blow to our overall survive-ability but can probably be largely fixed by dropping a jewel socket to grab more ES nodes if required. Looking forward to seeing your thoughts Mika & others. [Edit: Necro aegis not really moved at all. Just now sits in the same location but pathed off to the right rather than to the left.] |
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Hej,
playing another golemancer, but is this still viable due to the changes? |
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