[3.25]g00fy_goober's EleBuzzsaw Deadeye (Easily Clear All Content) *REVAMPED AGAIN*

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g00fy_goober написал:

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Cozex написал:

"Revenge of the Hunted" is 4% life per point (AND you get evasion), "Written in Blood" is 3.333% life per point since you don't take "Nightstalker",these points might not be worth it, but "Written in Blood" is definitely alot worse.

There is nothing weird about solid life nodes leading to a 10% life node.

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Xanoth написал:

Has anyone tried a Hyaon's Fury? I'm a little worried about the 21% increase damage taken when on full frenzy charges (always), but it wouldn't take a huge change to the tree and seems like a good option at least on paper, and with it being pure lightning, your lightning pen gem is getting better value. I'm probably missing something as a reason why, I mean I guess that damage could literally roll a 1 (whereas tri-elemental weapons you're at least getting 150+ minimum base roll on damage). Sheet damage alone drops a bit (even using my low end dagger that I levelled with), but factoring in lightning pen and 12% increase lightning damage per frenzy charge (84%).

Also accuracy on the sword means you can ditch the shield and get something with evasion/life/resists

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With the sword changes in 2.6, you're losing 26% crit multi and gaining 40% crit chance?

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Sword node gives:
+54% to Critical Strike Multiplier with Swords
130% increased Critical Strike Chance with Swords


Dagger gives:
+90% to Critical Strike Multiplier with Daggers
60% increased Critical Strike Chance with Daggers

I don't think it's worth factoring in poison from dagger node, as our physical is too low to matter and unless I'm missing something nothing else is interacting with that?

I only started on Monday and feeling a bit too poor to invest in respecing to check both ways, so would appreciate someone that knows the game better than me having a look at the numbers, or just trying it out I guess, if you're feeling up to it.

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d3s0 написал:

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Xanoth написал:

Has anyone tried a Hyaon's Fury? I'm a little worried about the 21% increase damage taken when on full frenzy charges (always), but it wouldn't take a huge change to the tree and seems like a good option at least on paper, and with it being pure lightning, your lightning pen gem is getting better value. I'm probably missing something as a reason why, I mean I guess that damage could literally roll a 1 (whereas tri-elemental weapons you're at least getting 150+ minimum base roll on damage). Sheet damage alone drops a bit (even using my low end dagger that I levelled with), but factoring in lightning pen and 12% increase lightning damage per frenzy charge (84%).

Also accuracy on the sword means you can ditch the shield and get something with evasion/life/resists

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With the sword changes in 2.6, you're losing 26% crit multi and gaining 40% crit chance?

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Sword node gives:
+54% to Critical Strike Multiplier with Swords
130% increased Critical Strike Chance with Swords


Dagger gives:
+90% to Critical Strike Multiplier with Daggers
60% increased Critical Strike Chance with Daggers

I don't think it's worth factoring in poison from dagger node, as our physical is too low to matter and unless I'm missing something nothing else is interacting with that?

I only started on Monday and feeling a bit too poor to invest in respecing to check both ways, so would appreciate someone that knows the game better than me having a look at the numbers, or just trying it out I guess, if you're feeling up to it.

First of all about Hyaon's Fury. It's 8 frenzy charges, not 7, so you would take 24% increased damage, not 21. Another thing, look more closely at the hyaon's speed ;) Hyaon's is a shit sword in general, for pretty much any existing viable build, really.

On the topic of daggers vs swords, you all tend to forget the main fact about crit.
Daggers have higher base critchance. The passive critchance increase comes on top of local crit of the dagger, which is increased firstly by both local crit roll and the implicit of the dagger weapon type, therefore the increase from the tree is way higher than it looks. (Same mechanic is applied when calculating attackspeed). So with all the passive nodes, swords do not actually get more critchance in the end result. The only place where swords actually "win" is attackspeed, since the bases of foils have slightly higher basespeed. To be quite honest, I believe even claws would be better than swords currently, since we could not care about leech (currently claws are quite insane on this part, I would say even too OP really), which is few passives invested elsewhere.
Sure, on the budget part, daggers are really more expensive than both other weapon types, but at the same time, better in most aspects. This build can be made on all 3 types, it solely depends on your own personal preference, and that was mentioned like 10+ times in this thread already.

Peace out.