[3.6] Vieira's Magma Orb Miner (Guardians,Shaper,Uber and uber elder viable)

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ol_baid написал:

I was thinking that a cheaper version than Kaom's Heart could be Carcass Jack + Kaom's Roots.

The damage is comparable, if not bigger and you can use the remaining sockets for Smoke Mine - Increased Duration to compansate the missing movement speed on the boots.

Furthermore you COULD reallocate an area of effect wheel for more life.
Instead, you can take the chaos resistance/life nodes next to the fire damage nodes instead for 5 points.
Or you can leave out the templar area at all and go to the Scion life wheel.

I don't know if that's a better choice. You'll have less life overall (you get ~ 190 energy shield though, so you profit from the ES/life wheel more), and you'll have less resistances as the resistances from Carcass jack hardly compensate the resistances you'd get from rare boots.

Any ideas?

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Priyora написал:

Thanks a lot, after giving it a few days to learn and get proper gear , I killed The shaper today easily ... not even thinking what to do since I skip all of his shit cuz of the insane damage.

The only tweak I did was

removing leap slam/faster attack and putting those on a second weapon set " Brightbeak/Prismatic Eclipse " for insane movement speed. along with the portal

so I freed 3 slots from main gear and used Immortal call/CWDT/Increase duration to help when doing Uber Lab and mindless T15-T16 farming since they eliminate any one shot pack if you werent paying attention.

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deadmanwalkin написал:

How well does this build perform with:

- no kaoms
- 5L
- mediocre gear aka about maybe 4k life and 1k mana or so
- no head enchant
- maybe level 16, 17 gems w/o quality

so basically, does that build work and is it strong and fun with "selffound" gear (a 5L Sire shouldn't be a problem, but a koams + lvl 2x/2x gems and the head enchant might be one for me)?

build looks super fun, but I don't want to "waste" time for something that starts being fun only very late in the character progress, so that's why I'm asking.

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gvieira написал:

The only problem I see in using carcass + kaom's is that you dont have movement speed on kaom's roots, and it really makes a difference. This build, as most miners, lacks mobility, and the speed helps a lot.

About the life wheel near fire damage it is a good option. It may even be worth to lose some mana instead of AoE to get those nodes.

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gvieira написал:

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Priyora написал:

Thanks a lot, after giving it a few days to learn and get proper gear , I killed The shaper today easily ... not even thinking what to do since I skip all of his shit cuz of the insane damage.

The only tweak I did was

removing leap slam/faster attack and putting those on a second weapon set " Brightbeak/Prismatic Eclipse " for insane movement speed. along with the portal

so I freed 3 slots from main gear and used Immortal call/CWDT/Increase duration to help when doing Uber Lab and mindless T15-T16 farming since they eliminate any one shot pack if you werent paying attention.

Good to know that you beat shaper easily! For shaper i thought about getting a tremor rod but I think it wouldn't be worth because you would have to think where to put the mines all the time, and you already have a good damage with sire's.

Your tweek is a good option. I'll probably try brightbeak+prismatic later too.

I'm not a good fan of CWDT+IC because in my opinion it's only really usefull against porcupines. If I do that setup I may use the free slots for some other utility like smoke mine+IC or something else.

One other thing, how are you doing on chimera? It's the only guardian I struggle a bit.

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Priyora написал:

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gvieira написал:

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Priyora написал:

Thanks a lot, after giving it a few days to learn and get proper gear , I killed The shaper today easily ... not even thinking what to do since I skip all of his shit cuz of the insane damage.

The only tweak I did was

removing leap slam/faster attack and putting those on a second weapon set " Brightbeak/Prismatic Eclipse " for insane movement speed. along with the portal

so I freed 3 slots from main gear and used Immortal call/CWDT/Increase duration to help when doing Uber Lab and mindless T15-T16 farming since they eliminate any one shot pack if you werent paying attention.

Good to know that you beat shaper easily! For shaper i thought about getting a tremor rod but I think it wouldn't be worth because you would have to think where to put the mines all the time, and you already have a good damage with sire's.

Your tweek is a good option. I'll probably try brightbeak+prismatic later too.

I'm not a good fan of CWDT+IC because in my opinion it's only really usefull against porcupines. If I do that setup I may use the free slots for some other utility like smoke mine+IC or something else.

One other thing, how are you doing on chimera? It's the only guardian I struggle a bit.

For chimera i change the instant heal shock potion to a 2.7k regen pot with stone golem since the only way he could kill me is during his hide and seek phase --- the damage he does during that phase is not one shot and stone golem + the 2.7 health regen pot can cover the bleeding until you find him and if needed the other instant heal pot, but generally with brightbeak+prismatic i find him in 2seconds because of the insane mobility .
Stone golem is also tanky i like him for chimera more than fire golem.
the add phase is no problem with your build :D Spam magma orbs till next morning :D

PS: Let me know how you'll use the extra slot if you use the rightbeak+prismatic combo