[3.x - Discontinued for now] Burning Spectres - Torch the Atlas - HC Shaper, Elder, Uber Atziri

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LexusVal написал:

Can this still do Red and Uber Elder in 3.3?

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Shaggyhead написал:

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LexusVal написал:

Can this still do Red and Uber Elder in 3.3?

As soon as you understand how to properly dodge stuff, Uber Elder becomes doable. Never tried Uber Elder before and bricked two sets learning fight this league. Then bought Kaom's Roots and did it quite easy with 3 TVs.

Red Elder was super easy.

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killertje164 написал:

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Exelice написал:

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killertje164 написал:

I don't think you know how spectres work. The exact same reason Chance to ignite works on spectres is the reason Efficacy and swift affliction work. RF is still a "dot" but without a duration, Efficacy simply gives the "spectres" a %more multiplier on their DoT damage due to the *Supports any skill that deals damage* on the gem tag. This has been proven multiple times by "burning miscreations" which use UNRIGHTEOUS FIRE, which is literally the exact same skill as wickerman RF according to necronomicon.

TL;DR:

Wicker man RF is not the same as player-RF, and gems work differently for spectres, e.a Chance to ignite.

Don't think u test it how i say. Just for you, i repeat - try 1L and 4L with less dur+eff+swift.

I did 20 kills dominus (2 stage) with both setup:
Its 35-36 secs with both setup.

Maybe UNRIGHTEOUS FIRE by misc work well, but righteous from wicker mans dont.

Yeah, I just tested it. I stand corrected. Burned miscreations have to Cast their righteous fire, whereas wicker man have it as an aura which might be the difference between these 2 spectres. I guess the information regarding spectres is a bit scrambled across the internet. Came to this conclusion: Chance to ignite works due to the description not specifying that only hits deal more fire damage, like fire penetration does, and any duration tag gem does not work with wickerman despite what the description says/indicates that it should work. Fuck, now I know why I stopped playing summoner builds lol. Anyways sorry for coming on a bit too strong aswell, just woke up with a hangover and reacted without testing it first. Would be nice to get some clarification on this whether or not it's a bug or intended(think it's intended with duration tag, seems to weigh heavier than anything else).

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GgrrrH написал:

Hi,

i played this build during the harbringer league and enjoyed it so much, it was my first time really doing endgame, completing the atlas and doing all of the leaguechallenges.

i haven't played since and would like to restart in the flashbackleague next week.

the build got nerved and i see so many skeletons/zombie threads here, so my question is if those builds are superiour to this?

thanks.

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Shaggyhead написал:

Also managed to do HoGM - spectres and golems die alot, but you can always retreat and resummon them.

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wiwigvn написал:

Hi all fellow summoners, been a while, I skipped both Bestiary and Incursion, glad to see this thread still lively though it seems spectres are no longer as OP. Maybe I would join the 1-month event. Do you think this build's still good for leveling as usual?

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LaplaceNoMa написал:

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Shaggyhead написал:

Also managed to do HoGM - spectres and golems die alot, but you can always retreat and resummon them.

Were you lucky to not encounter mull_gubben or did you find a way around him? Because I've tried everything, and block chance reduction support is definitely not enough...

//edit: or Zami, who is just as unkillable...