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blingi написал:
I'm not following this guide and using a mostly self built SG spectre build.
I just spawned uber elder and want to try him for the first time, so I was thinking about switching to TV for him since I heard those were preferable for single target damage.
Is this still the case?
Yes.
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blingi написал:
Anything I need to look out for doing uber elder with those minions?
Which gem links provide the highest dps for TVs (since PoB doesn't work with them)? I don't think I'll need minion resistance since I'm running purity of elements. So far I'm thinking spectre - ele focus - minion damage - burning damage - multiple totems (?) - efficiacy (is this better than swift affliction or is there something better alltogether?)
Here is my build for reference: https://pastebin.com/XWxKAm6Q
My AG provides another -9% fire res and I'll try linking combustion support for another -19%. Does combustion work with AG?
Best links for TVs (disregarding Multiple Totems) are Raise Spectre - Minion Damage - Burning Damage - Combustion - Swift Affliction - Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance.
Efficacy only works half (not spell damage), so no-no.
Elemental Focus is just bad now (prevents burning), I saw a noticeable damage increase when using Combustion instead of it.
For the record:
- Fire Penetration doesn't work (because Scorching Ray does not hit)
- Controlled Destruction doesn't work (because Scorching Ray is not spell damage)
- Stuff that works for TV's totems: minion damage, fire damage, elemental damage, damage over time
I would suggest going with what I posted above and trying out to replace Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance (if you don't need the res) with Multiple Totems.
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СообщениеCroc411#117411 янв. 2019 г., 13:07:31
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Croc411 написал:
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blingi написал:
I'm not following this guide and using a mostly self built SG spectre build.
I just spawned uber elder and want to try him for the first time, so I was thinking about switching to TV for him since I heard those were preferable for single target damage.
Is this still the case?
Yes.
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blingi написал:
Anything I need to look out for doing uber elder with those minions?
Which gem links provide the highest dps for TVs (since PoB doesn't work with them)? I don't think I'll need minion resistance since I'm running purity of elements. So far I'm thinking spectre - ele focus - minion damage - burning damage - multiple totems (?) - efficiacy (is this better than swift affliction or is there something better alltogether?)
Here is my build for reference: https://pastebin.com/XWxKAm6Q
My AG provides another -9% fire res and I'll try linking combustion support for another -19%. Does combustion work with AG?
Best links for TVs (disregarding Multiple Totems) are Raise Spectre - Minion Damage - Burning Damage - Combustion - Swift Affliction - Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance.
Efficacy only works half (not spell damage), so no-no.
Elemental Focus is just bad now (prevents burning), I saw a noticeable damage increase when using Combustion instead of it.
For the record:
- Fire Penetration doesn't work (because Scorching Ray does not hit)
- Controlled Destruction doesn't work (because Scorching Ray is not spell damage)
- Stuff that works for TV's totems: minion damage, fire damage, elemental damage, damage over time
I would suggest going with what I posted above and trying out to replace Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance (if you don't need the res) with Multiple Totems.
My current links are:
Raise Spectre - Burning Damage - Minion Damage - Multiple Totems - Swift Affliction - Elemental Focus.
I had Combustion in there purely for the 29% more fire damage. I had a separate combustion linked to my AG and Zombies, which did fire damage from a jewel I had to ignite and lower enemy res. Does the actually burning portion of the totems' damage deal the equivalent of the additional 20% more damage (49% total) that Elemental Focus provides over Combustion?
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cloudblade70 написал:
My current links are:
Raise Spectre - Burning Damage - Minion Damage - Multiple Totems - Swift Affliction - Elemental Focus.
I had Combustion in there purely for the 29% more fire damage. I had a separate combustion linked to my AG and Zombies, which did fire damage from a jewel I had to ignite and lower enemy res. Does the actually burning portion of the totems' damage deal the equivalent of the additional 20% more damage (49% total) that Elemental Focus provides over Combustion?
Keep in mind that Combustion also lowers mob's fire resistance. This and the burning adds up to a significant increase in dps when taking Combustion over Elemental Focus.
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СообщениеCroc411#117411 янв. 2019 г., 13:57:43
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Croc411 написал:
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cloudblade70 написал:
My current links are:
Raise Spectre - Burning Damage - Minion Damage - Multiple Totems - Swift Affliction - Elemental Focus.
I had Combustion in there purely for the 29% more fire damage. I had a separate combustion linked to my AG and Zombies, which did fire damage from a jewel I had to ignite and lower enemy res. Does the actually burning portion of the totems' damage deal the equivalent of the additional 20% more damage (49% total) that Elemental Focus provides over Combustion?
Keep in mind that Combustion also lowers mob's fire resistance. This and the burning adds up to a significant increase in dps when taking Combustion over Elemental Focus.
I'm already getting the combustion debuff via AG/Golem, so would ele focus be the best choice dps wise after that?
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Сообщениеblingi#322311 янв. 2019 г., 14:22:32
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blingi написал:
I'm already getting the combustion debuff via AG/Golem, so would ele focus be the best choice dps wise after that?
OK, I got that now.
Hard to say which one is better in your situation, try out both and keep the one that feels better for you.
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СообщениеCroc411#117411 янв. 2019 г., 14:42:27
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I'm in the same boat as you, blingi. I already have a separate Combustion from my zombies/AG for the fire res debuff. In our case, I believe Elemental Focus is the better option.
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cloudblade70 написал:
I'm in the same boat as you, blingi. I already have a separate Combustion from my zombies/AG for the fire res debuff. In our case, I believe Elemental Focus is the better option.
I tried both but honestly I didn't really notice any real difference. The totems do so much damage that shaper/elder go invincible like 2 seconds after my TVs start unloading on them so it's hurt to really tell any difference.
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Сообщениеblingi#322312 янв. 2019 г., 8:00:48
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cloudblade70 написал:
I did some brief testing, the most I ever saw from one TV was 2 totems out at a time. By the time they were able to summon again, their prior totems had already died. However, this is still a DPS boost.
My prior links were Raise Spectre - Elemental Focus - Swift Affliction - Burning Damage - Minion Damage - Combustion (for the 28% more fire damage).
Considering a level 20 Multiple Totems, with 21% reduced damage, that's still 2 x 0.79 = 1.58 = 58% more damage. So I'm going to replace Combustion. Plus it helps ramp up the fire res debuff more quickly.
Don't know if a linked faster casting or quality on the gem for faster totem placement speed would affect it, or if there is a hard cooldown on how often they can summon totems. Maybe it's the same as the totem duration of 5 seconds. Please someone correct me if they saw 3 totems out at once.
I submitted a bug report on the fact with Necromantic Agis and the +1 shield only 1 totem seems to ever be out. I got a response that the AI is designed to only rarely summon totems more than once due to AI and the nerfed (5s instead of 10) totem time.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2305235
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СообщениеZalhan2#198616 янв. 2019 г., 10:05:23
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Well I just killed shaper with my necro using 4 TV , AG , Stone golem , and some zombies .
So im fine with combustion over elemental focus , because I think the burning damage is why we use TV in the first place .
Build seems ok , for shaper anyway .
RogueweaponNecro .
I think i might do some testing with blood magic linked with a spectre setup .
I read/heard somewhere the spectres have a small mana pool and that could be the reason the dont spam thier skills .
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/443606538058465286/535863200684703744/screenshot-0004.png
I count 8 beams happening here , with BM and MT support .
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СообщениеRogueweapon#232017 янв. 2019 г., 13:42:22
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TV are prolly the best spectres again . The clear speed and dmg with multiple totems are insane . Im runnin 5 TV and 10 zombies ( 2 x sixlinks ) thats fun
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СообщениеTom1nside#75443 марта 2019 г., 21:59:49
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