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" I think you are misunderstanding something, with the Elementalist's Beacon of Ruin, "Chills from your Hits always Slow by at least 10%" : any Cold hit will Chill regardless of Conflux/Crit/Resistances... Even a 1 Cold damage non-crit hit will Chill Uber Elder with a 10% minimum slow for the full duration Sorry but tell me if I am wrong, because maybe I am misunderstanding this. You claim that any hit will Chill regardless of conflux/crit/resistance. Are you sure this is correct? "Chills from your Hits always slow by at least 10%"... BUT you are assuming your hits always chill 100% of the time. I don't see how that is possible outside of the conflux. Just because you have 1 cold damage does not mean you cause Chill. What am I not understanding?	Сообщение SleepThieff#1208 23 нояб. 2018 г., 23:39:37 Цитировать это сообщение
" SleepThieff написал: Sorry but tell me if I am wrong, because maybe I am misunderstanding this. You claim that any hit will Chill regardless of conflux/crit/resistance. Are you sure this is correct? "Chills from your Hits always slow by at least 10%"... BUT you are assuming your hits always chill 100% of the time. I don't see how that is possible outside of the conflux. Just because you have 1 cold damage does not mean you cause Chill. What am I not understanding? Chill and Shock works the same way. The amplitude of the effect applied depend on the power of the hit. If we ignore %increased effect of Shock/Chill/Ailment, a single hit worth 10% of the target's lifepool will inflict a full effect Shock or Chill. Full effect is 50% increased damage taken for Shock and 30% slow for Chill. A single hit worth 5% of the target's lifepool will give half the effect (25% for shock, 15% for chill), a 3.3% hit will give 16.6% for Shock and 10% for chill, ... and so on. If a hit inflict a Shock or Chill with an effect inferior at 1%, then the ailment is not applied. The "Chills from your Hits always slow by at least 10%" mod makes that any Chilling hit will have a minimum effect of 10%, so even a small hit will not have to pass through the threshold check. Now if you add "Any hit of cold damage, even non-criticals, has the potential to chill the target" (from the Wiki), it means that as long as you have a source of Cold hit, you will always chill. [3.7] Scourge Arrow, Ignite Proliferation Elementalist. Melt T15 on a budget, All content viable. pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2222701 ____________ [3.7] Shocking Elementalist, Lightning Tendrils Cast when Channeling Arc. Budget version included pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2109605	Сообщение Swiks#3674 24 нояб. 2018 г., 8:00:34 Цитировать это сообщение
" Chill and Shock works the same way. The amplitude of the effect applied depend on the power of the hit. If we ignore %increased effect of Shock/Chill/Ailment, a single hit worth 10% of the target's lifepool will inflict a full effect Shock or Chill. Full effect is 50% increased damage taken for Shock and 30% slow for Chill. A single hit worth 5% of the target's lifepool will give half the effect (25% for shock, 15% for chill), a 3.3% hit will give 16.6% for Shock and 10% for chill, ... and so on. If a hit inflict a Shock or Chill with an effect inferior at 1%, then the ailment is not applied. The "Chills from your Hits always slow by at least 10%" mod makes that any Chilling hit will have a minimum effect of 10%, so even a small hit will not have to pass through the threshold check. Now if you add "Any hit of cold damage, even non-criticals, has the potential to chill the target" (from the Wiki), it means that as long as you have a source of Cold hit, you will always chill. Thank you for taking the time to explain that -- I have a suitable understanding now! Последняя редакция: SleepThieff#1208. Время: 25 нояб. 2018 г., 23:45:24	Сообщение SleepThieff#1208 25 нояб. 2018 г., 23:44:55 Цитировать это сообщение
For the leveling trees you spec the Area damage nodes x2 but the final tree doesn't have them - is this because you're supposing that Inpulsa's/ascendancy take care of AoE for clear? Последняя редакция: alt01dz#6103. Время: 27 нояб. 2018 г., 14:57:10	Сообщение alt01dz#6103 27 нояб. 2018 г., 14:52:22 Цитировать это сообщение
" o314 написал: For the leveling trees you spec the Area damage nodes x2 but the final tree doesn't have them - is this because you're supposing that Inpulsa's/ascendancy take care of AoE for clear? Exactly, AoE is useful early on to give Lightning Tendrils some coverage, once you get Inpulsa it gets irrelevant. You can also skip them while leveling to save some respec points as they are not THAT important. [3.7] Scourge Arrow, Ignite Proliferation Elementalist. Melt T15 on a budget, All content viable. pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2222701 ____________ [3.7] Shocking Elementalist, Lightning Tendrils Cast when Channeling Arc. Budget version included pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2109605	Сообщение Swiks#3674 27 нояб. 2018 г., 17:04:02 Цитировать это сообщение
" Exactly, AoE is useful early on to give Lightning Tendrils some coverage, once you get Inpulsa it gets irrelevant. You can also skip them while leveling to save some respec points as they are not THAT important. Thanks Swiks. I'm running through maps on Delve at the moment using none of the uniques except Singularity and am so far happy. I notice that orb of storms is just ridiculous DPS and am considering making it a 6 link in tabula with LT - CwC - Arc - (something) in Kalisa's Grace until week 2/3 when Inpulsa's is more realistic. Any thoughts about that? [OoS is just clearing so well...] Thanks for such an off-meta, on-point build Edit to Add: With this setup: " no rings no amulet no wrath tabula with storm of orbs set-up + controlled destruction and ele focus (just did this on the fly) goldrim x2 Singularity 1 jewel (hypothermia) Kalisa's Grace with LT - CwC - Arc - Hypothermia Warlord's instead of Conductivity with HoT At level 85 fully ascended I just cleared a few t14 maps. I knew it worked with the juice, but this is one of those builds where every single piece added is a ginormous addition. Seriously thankful, look forward to starting league with it. (This is the same guy from /r/PoEBuilds fyi) Последняя редакция: alt01dz#6103. Время: 27 нояб. 2018 г., 22:06:04	Сообщение alt01dz#6103 27 нояб. 2018 г., 21:21:17 Цитировать это сообщение
" For the leveling trees you spec the Area damage nodes x2 but the final tree doesn't have them - is this because you're supposing that Inpulsa's/ascendancy take care of AoE for clear? Inpulsa's aoe ability does scale with the aoe nodes (damage and size). While the nodes are fairly irrelevant for Tendrils, maybe the nodes are worth considering to increase the size/dmg of Inpulsa explosions. You could run like 20 maps w/ the nodes and 20 maps w/o and see if you notice a difference.	Сообщение SleepThieff#1208 28 нояб. 2018 г., 0:38:21 Цитировать это сообщение
EDIT: It seems this post was overwritten by the first post, I don't know how this happened. " SleepThieff написал: Inpulsa's aoe ability does scale with the aoe nodes (damage and size). While the nodes are fairly irrelevant for Tendrils, maybe the nodes are worth considering to increase the size/dmg of Inpulsa explosions. You could run like 20 maps w/ the nodes and 20 maps w/o and see if you notice a difference. It's true that AoE nodes are still usable for the Inpulsa, but that's still a lot of points for what it does and I find that investment hard to justify in a point starved build like this one. But if you want to go for the maximum clearspeed, that could be a good idea. [3.7] Scourge Arrow, Ignite Proliferation Elementalist. Melt T15 on a budget, All content viable. pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2222701 ____________ [3.7] Shocking Elementalist, Lightning Tendrils Cast when Channeling Arc. Budget version included pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2109605 Последняя редакция: Swiks#3674. Время: 29 нояб. 2018 г., 8:04:25	Сообщение Swiks#3674 28 нояб. 2018 г., 4:16:49 Цитировать это сообщение
I put all of the trees into Path of Building for an easier leveling experience. There are other gear choices (Enki's) from the drop down as well to gauge expected DPS at different spots. Figured I would share this for the community https://pastebin.com/gDMftRXz I noticed you jumped between spell damage and cast speed in the first 5 nodes across the trees, but I found cast speed to provide the most DPS at all times except possibly early on. 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Время: 28 нояб. 2018 г., 13:35:45	Сообщение alt01dz#6103 28 нояб. 2018 г., 13:34:08 Цитировать это сообщение
" o314 написал: I put all of the trees into Path of Building for an easier leveling experience. There are other gear choices (Enki's) from the drop down as well to gauge expected DPS at different spots. Figured I would share this for the community https://pastebin.com/gDMftRXz I noticed you jumped between spell damage and cast speed in the first 5 nodes across the trees, but I found cast speed to provide the most DPS at all times except possibly early on. Arc breaks a million in the bossing tree. Hey ! Thanks for that, I need to use that functionality more. I'm not sure about Enki's items because we don't scale damage the same way, maybe be replacing cast speed and spell damage by crit chance and crit multiplier. Yeah the cast speed help early on to have a smoother leveling but when you get around level 70+ with a bunch of uniques, Spell Damage outperform Cast Speed because it applies to both LT and Arc. The difference is not that big to be honest, so if you prefer Cast Speed you can stick with it. After looking at the trees I think I want to rework a bit some of them, I'll try to do that today when I have some time. [3.7] Scourge Arrow, Ignite Proliferation Elementalist. Melt T15 on a budget, All content viable. pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2222701 ____________ [3.7] Shocking Elementalist, Lightning Tendrils Cast when Channeling Arc. Budget version included pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2109605	Сообщение Swiks#3674 29 нояб. 2018 г., 8:13:16 Цитировать это сообщение