[3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2150625/page/1

revamped hypothermia gem has been revealed and it hasn't been nerfed, so it stays in the build

20/20 vaal blade vortex is also revealed and it has been nerfed already - vaal vortex base duration is reduced from 5 to 3 seconds possibly making the 2 duration clusters version of the tree more appealing.

Thanks for the update.

I have a question on Inpulsa.

If I can get a well-rolled 5L Inpulsa (say 48% for inc damage and 39% for inc effect), is it still worth it to get a poorly-rolled 6L Inpulsa (say 25%/30%), possibly for a couple of ex.

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jjlocus написал:

Thanks for the update.

I have a question on Inpulsa.

If I can get a well-rolled 5L Inpulsa (say 48% for inc damage and 39% for inc effect), is it still worth it to get a poorly-rolled 6L Inpulsa (say 25%/30%), possibly for a couple of ex.

Yeah for sure!

Since blade vortex is hitting a lot quicker in 3.3 doesn't the dps also increase by that same amount of hits per second?

Can someone run the numbers and see if 3.3 is actually a buff or a nerf?
Just because you drop spell echo and replace with a more modifier gem doesn’t mean
It can beat losing 10 freaking blades. Not only that, they nerfed the flat pays per blade at
Lvl 20.

Unless the new stats make up for that somehow. I need to see some napkin math before
I commit to this build. Thank you.

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Beholdd написал:

Since blade vortex is hitting a lot quicker in 3.3 doesn't the dps also increase by that same amount of hits per second?

... yes. But as it is hitting a lot quicker, max stack size was reduced.

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wooopaul11 написал:

Can someone run the numbers and see if 3.3 is actually a buff or a nerf?
Just because you drop spell echo and replace with a more modifier gem doesn’t mean
It can beat losing 10 freaking blades. Not only that, they nerfed the flat pays per blade at
Lvl 20.

Unless the new stats make up for that somehow. I need to see some napkin math before
I commit to this build. Thank you.

You lose 10 blades but you're also hitting a shitton more per blade (10% increased hit rate per stack before to 35% per stack now). And getting a % more modifier while maintaining your average BV dps is huge, so in the end it's a buff for sure. And there's no flat phys per blade nerf, the values on the gem preview for 3.3 are the same as before (123 to 185 at lv 20).

There was also a 5% increase in the "more damage for each blade", went from 30% to 35%.

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jjlocus написал:

Thanks for the update.

I have a question on Inpulsa.

If I can get a well-rolled 5L Inpulsa (say 48% for inc damage and 39% for inc effect), is it still worth it to get a poorly-rolled 6L Inpulsa (say 25%/30%), possibly for a couple of ex.

6 links is always going to be better and you can fix your bad rolls with a couple of divine orbs later on anyway

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wooopaul11 написал:

Can someone run the numbers and see if 3.3 is actually a buff or a nerf?
Just because you drop spell echo and replace with a more modifier gem doesn’t mean
It can beat losing 10 freaking blades. Not only that, they nerfed the flat pays per blade at
Lvl 20.

Unless the new stats make up for that somehow. I need to see some napkin math before
I commit to this build. Thank you.

old bv at 20 stacks: 7 * 3 / 0.6 = 35 multiplier
new bv at 10 stacks: 4.5 * 4.5 / 0.6 = 33.75 multiplier + 100% increased crit

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Ataz написал:

I think the "PCoC" + "Inc Crit DMG" could be a good (?the Best damagewise?) combo since they buffed "PCoC" when you go for an Power Charge focused Build. (and can maintain a good enought Crit Chance)

When you do it, then grab also all PCs from the skill tree. In the end the character would reach 6 PCs. So 24% more damage is quite good for such a utility skill. However, tree needs to be adjusted and one duration cluster needs to be dropped.

What was other reasons for the 2nd skill duration cluster? Vaal BV duration?

It seems to me that is just QOL and its not worth losing damage or PC over.