[3.3] Noodle's Arc Trap + Lightning Spire Trap Saboteur (Budget 2.2M+ Shaper DPS)

Yes but they only throw one trap out. I had a trap build with blink and mirror arrow on it with trap support it only throws one trap now.
Последняя редакция: Desarix. Время: 6 июня 2018 г., 17:19:00
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Neehan написал:
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Desarix написал:
In your build you used cluster traps with arc but they don't work unless they are used with traps that have charges so if you use trap support the multiple and cluster don't work with those.


Cluster and multi trap definitely work with Arc Traps.


I had a blink arrow and mirror arrow trap build the multiple traps gem support it throws out only one trap now.

see this

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8nwdol/cluster_trap_gem_cant_work_anymore_33/


https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8o1w6f/the_changes_to_multiple_traps_support_cluster/



The description no longer applies. It may work with arc because of no cooldown on skill but the gem itself no longer produces more than one trap if there is a cooldown to the skill it supports. I tried it several times today when I throw a trap out only one trap appears and this is especially obvious when you can see the minion blink/mirror clones.

If you do not use trap support the multiple and cluster trap works properly.
Последняя редакция: Desarix. Время: 6 июня 2018 г., 17:31:49
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Desarix написал:
I had a blink arrow and mirror arrow trap build the multiple traps gem support it throws out only one trap now.

see this

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8nwdol/cluster_trap_gem_cant_work_anymore_33/


https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8o1w6f/the_changes_to_multiple_traps_support_cluster/



The description no longer applies. It may work with arc because of no cooldown on skill but the gem itself no longer produces more than one trap if there is a cooldown to the skill it supports. I tried it several times today when I throw a trap out only one trap appears and this is especially obvious when you can see the minion blink/mirror clones.

If you do not use trap support the multiple and cluster trap works properly.


The top comment on both those reddit threads proves that cluster does work with Arc traps. My setup definitely throws out multiple traps and the streamers I’ve watched definitely throw out multiple traps. Looks like the changes only apply to skills with cool downs. So since Arc with Trap support doesn’t have a cool down, it still works. Perhaps it’s your blink/mirror setup that is making it not throw multiple? Not sure why yours is acting that way but I’m sure that Arc - Trap Support - Cluster Traps does work.
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Desarix написал:
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Neehan написал:


Cluster and multi trap definitely work with Arc Traps.


I had a blink arrow and mirror arrow trap build the multiple traps gem support it throws out only one trap now.

see this

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8nwdol/cluster_trap_gem_cant_work_anymore_33/


https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8o1w6f/the_changes_to_multiple_traps_support_cluster/



The description no longer applies. It may work with arc because of no cooldown on skill but the gem itself no longer produces more than one trap if there is a cooldown to the skill it supports. I tried it several times today when I throw a trap out only one trap appears and this is especially obvious when you can see the minion blink/mirror clones.

If you do not use trap support the multiple and cluster trap works properly.


Cluster Trap will not work on any trap where it will incur a cooldown when used
So in the case of Blink and Mirror Arrow, it will only use one trap, Arc however will still throw multiple traps out.
Thanks for the clarification. Anyway I removed the traps and am self casting the blink/mirror arrows now.
How come not using MoM in this build?
Are Stormchargers ok with this or are they just not that great in general?

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Novel386 написал:
Are Stormchargers ok with this or are they just not that great in general?



Yeah those don’t seem that great. No life, tiny amount of resist. Plus Arc doesn’t do physical damage. I’m sure you can find better rare boots. I’m still using my Deerstalkers which is a cheap way to 5L your Arc.
Why using vaal version (I'm aware, that it grants both versions) specifically? It's not supported by cluster traps, so despite being nearly twice as powerful, if we do some rough math:
Say normal version does 100% dmg. We got four in one drop.
Normal + cluster [-36% dmg at lvl 20] x 4 = 400 - (36 x 4) = 256% overall damage. So four mines in total whack stronger than one vaal.
Also, there is 21 lvl corrupted version of normal ver that chains 8 times (vs 7 at 20l) and does significantly more dmg being sold for 1ex, while 21 lvl vaal arc starts at 2ex. Am I missing something?
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honerpro написал:
How come not using MoM in this build?


I just updated with an MoM version; you can get more DPS without and mana sustain with MoM is difficult. But you can get enough mana regen to make MoM worthwhile if you use essence worm, clarity + vaal clarity, the "Dynamo" node near scion wheel, and hella mana regen on your gear.

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