Hall of Grandmasters - Zombie Chaos Damage on Death

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RPGlitch написал:

HoGM isn't balanced and is not likely to be balanced because people payed a ton of money to get that content in there, with their characters.

HoGM isn't balanced because GGG is unable to balance PvP. Player's money isn't the case. Take a look at uniques created by players: they are balanced by GGG before release.

To anyone talking silly without understanding how pvp work in this game:


Flesh binder or beacon of corruption is bugged and not normal in pvp.
Those minions degens have no pvp scaling and as such deal way too much chaos dots.


Same with minion they in general have no pvp scaling and it s why golems are super broken (if they are not converted).

Your only chance is to go CI or kill them afar and wait the clouds die.Even with all the Dots and chaos reduction in the game or pantheon and 75% chaos res you would die in a split second. It s GGG symbol of how they cared little about pvp since years and introducing things like flesh binder without even looking at it s effect on pvp.

See it that way: minions are not considered "players" in pvp so everything they do is not pvp scaled. In pvp when a player use a skill it is nerfed for pvp purpose. You don t really deal 10k damage to players when you have 10k tooltype. As a matter of fact even sometime with a tooltype of 300-400k you ll maybe deal maximum "only" 10 000 real dps to players ( and in that case you will 1 shot most of them having less than 10k life pool yes, depending of your elem pen or their life/es regen).

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Player_versus_player#PvP_Damage_scaling



http://poepvpdps.winewall.eu/ You can test your pvp damage with this calculator made by @Markusz.

So when a minion attack you or die and use dot damage, they are not nerfed and will deal REAL 10 000k of dps to players.

It s not normal pvp behavior, it s not intended. It is certainly there because lack of care for pvp.
It will get nerfed hard in 3.4 or so I heard. So there is hope.

Here to confirm what Headless said and simplify it without arguing with anyone (surprise!). Yes, the zombie fart cloud is overpowered and that is not intended. GGG is looking to reduce the damage that it causes in 3.4.

Great news, glad I wasn't wrong about this issue.

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Perq написал:

My question is - why would you even want to do that? If you put retarded characters in there, everyone will skip it and no one will ever see you character.

So you basically want to pay money and shit all over the place just so that nobody can see what you paid for.

I mean - sure, if you really want to do that, feel free to. But then again I think anyone who does that is a tool.

But if you put an easy to kill character in there, then it just dies without anyone noticing. I think annoying characters win on the visibility contest.

Hall of Grandmasters started out as a way to show your creativity and capability of making good characters in PoE. It then, somewhere along the line, quickly devolved into showing outsiders (non-PVP players) what a tremendous asshole you can be by making one-shot capable characters, or characters who cannot die.

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Sohala написал:

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Perq написал:

My question is - why would you even want to do that? If you put retarded characters in there, everyone will skip it and no one will ever see you character.

So you basically want to pay money and shit all over the place just so that nobody can see what you paid for.

I mean - sure, if you really want to do that, feel free to. But then again I think anyone who does that is a tool.

But if you put an easy to kill character in there, then it just dies without anyone noticing. I think annoying characters win on the visibility contest.

This is why you want GGG to balance it, so that they are balanced. Make them hard to kill, but not 5k-ES-regen hard to kill.