please don't nerf Arc Traps

Has anyone tried the Lightning Spire Trap? How is it compared to Arc trap especially on single target?
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Heartsease написал:
Has anyone tried the Lightning Spire Trap? How is it compared to Arc trap especially on single target?

Those are limited to three charges and duration based. If you have the sockets, you could use it to add another layer of damage to your Arc Traps.
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Mythkiller написал:
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Apachy написал:
The problem is not the traps, it is the Arc gem.
According to poe-ninja - 21% of all builds are based on Arc in this league!

Arc, Ele hit and vortex are too good not to be taken, they must be changed somehow.

And yes, I also played arc trapper in this league.


Its the opposite actually.

A self-cast Arc build has to actually deal with the downside of arc (slow cast speed). Traps just completely ignore Arc's only downside.

Try rolling a self-cast arc build and its a fraction as good as arc traps. First you bypass the cast speed, then you can pre-throw 20 traps to 1 shot any boss. That is the problem.

~Myth


Fully agree with Myth. I played both a self-cast arc witch and an arc trapper this league. Arc is in a good place, but paired with traps it's definitely OP.
If we we not able to plonk down as many traps or if bosses would destroy traps before they activate, it would level the playing field quite well without killing arc.
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Heartsease написал:
Has anyone tried the Lightning Spire Trap? How is it compared to Arc trap especially on single target?


Its pretty exceptional single target but it just isn't worth throwing/linking them instead of just more Arc traps currently.
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SisterBlister написал:
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Mythkiller написал:
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Apachy написал:
The problem is not the traps, it is the Arc gem.
According to poe-ninja - 21% of all builds are based on Arc in this league!

Arc, Ele hit and vortex are too good not to be taken, they must be changed somehow.

And yes, I also played arc trapper in this league.


Its the opposite actually.

A self-cast Arc build has to actually deal with the downside of arc (slow cast speed). Traps just completely ignore Arc's only downside.

Try rolling a self-cast arc build and its a fraction as good as arc traps. First you bypass the cast speed, then you can pre-throw 20 traps to 1 shot any boss. That is the problem.

~Myth


Fully agree with Myth. I played both a self-cast arc witch and an arc trapper this league. Arc is in a good place, but paired with traps it's definitely OP.
If we we not able to plonk down as many traps or if bosses would destroy traps before they activate, it would level the playing field quite well without killing arc.

Come on people, is it so difficult to look at poe-ninja and compare?

If you are too lazy I'll do it for you.

Incursion - Saboture:
- arc - 86%
- vaal arc - 35%
- glacial cascade - 7%

Bestiary - Saboture:
- glacial cascade - 90%
- arc - 3%

So, as you can see the problem is the buffed arc.




Последняя редакция: Apachy#6365. Время: 17 авг. 2018 г., 13:23:01
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Apachy написал:
According to poe-ninja - 21% of all builds are based on Arc in this league!

So what. People follow fashion trends in this game.
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Apachy написал:

Come on people, is it so difficult to look at poe-ninja and compare?

If you are too lazy I'll do it for you.

Incursion - Saboture:
- arc - 86%
- vaal arc - 35%
- glacial cascade - 7%

Bestiary - Saboture:
- glacial cascade - 90%
- arc - 3%

So, as you can see the problem is the buffed arc.

The point you miss is that 99% of those 86% are arc trappers.
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posted by Thaelyn on 12. August 2013 17:33
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Apachy написал:
Come on people, is it so difficult to look at poe-ninja and compare?
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So, as you can see the problem is the buffed arc.

Well, I actually played both styles and can say from experience that self-cast arc is nice, but certainly not OP.
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Apachy написал:
If you are too lazy I'll do it for you.

Wouldn't you say reading some stats is more lazy than trying stuff out? Balancing-by-excel-sheet does not have a successful history in POE.
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The fact that Arc was buffed is what caused it to become OP when used with traps but that doesn't mean Arc should be nerfed. Arc self-cast is pretty "meh". I played it as a league starter this league and I definitely don't think Arc is OP when self-cast. I didn't try it as a trapper but from the video's I've seen it's night and freaking day.
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It's the trap shotgunning that is OP. Arc merely adds the convenience of auto aiming, guaranteeing every trap to hit, over Glacial Cascade, for example. If there will be a nerf, I am pretty sure the shotgun effect from both traps and mines will be nuked, at least from Mine Field and Cluster Trap.
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