[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

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RavenofNi написал:
Is anyone else noticing that Energy Leech doesn't seem to work when Icestorm is cast via channeling Winter's Orb? Is that intended for the build?

Considering that there is a bug, where icestorm was excluded from the list of "spell cascade supported spells", i'll not be surprised if quite new mechanic have tons of bugs too.

Make a bug report, and wait for the solution :)
yea , spell cascade doesn't work anymore... also from 1.8 k INT 1.668 , i don;t see the advantages seriously , only nerf.......
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ReanimaTion21 написал:
yea , spell cascade doesn't work anymore... also from 1.8 k INT 1.668 , i don;t see the advantages seriously , only nerf.......

Nah, you are overreacting.
Let me ask you a question, why we have less int than before?
Mostly because we now need 6 additional skill points to grab ES leech nodes.
But together with that we free gemslot for additional damage, and that's a lot of damage. You can still get same ammount of int if you want by sacrificing some of that damage, and it will still not be lower than before.

And spell cascade issue isn't "nerf", it's a bug. Firestorm still supported properly, and this is basically the same skill.

Well, also i don't really see that much point in spell cascade either. When you get good winter orb setup, your clearing will be good even without spell cascade, and maybe even better.
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Med1umentor написал:
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ReanimaTion21 написал:
yea , spell cascade doesn't work anymore... also from 1.8 k INT 1.668 , i don;t see the advantages seriously , only nerf.......

Nah, you are overreacting.
Let me ask you a question, why we have less int than before?
Mostly because we now need 6 additional skill points to grab ES leech nodes.
But together with that we free gemslot for additional damage, and that's a lot of damage. You can still get same ammount of int if you want by sacrificing some of that damage, and it will still not be lower than before.

And spell cascade issue isn't "nerf", it's a bug. Firestorm still supported properly, and this is basically the same skill.

Well, also i don't really see that much point in spell cascade either. When you get good winter orb setup, your clearing will be good even without spell cascade, and maybe even better.


Just Icestorm works as well
Only cwc is the problem
Did you test firestorm or cwc-firestorm?
If I try firestorm handcasting, it work with spell cascade. When I try to channeling WO with CwC firestorm cascade does not work. It doesnt look like bug, but intended change. If that is really the case, I bet ES leech gem will not work too :( maybe some hidden CwC nerf? I hope not, but I am not optimist. But it is strange that they didnt mention anything in patch notes.
Последняя редакция: Kofajs#5192. Время: 9 марта 2019 г., 13:15:48
I have a suspicion - could it be that CwC gives Icestorm the Channeling tag for some reason? We know Spell Cascade won't work with channeling skills, this seems like a logical explanation, albeit an unintended interaction.

EDIT: Also, this issue seems to be dating back at least a month - found a Reddit thread from January 21.
FINALLY IT'S LUPUS!
Последняя редакция: LupusImmortalis#3819. Время: 9 марта 2019 г., 12:22:13
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Последняя редакция: zaibas#1734. Время: 9 марта 2019 г., 12:29:40
Hey guys, newish player here. Is this build still fine for end game with the cascade bug? Can i just use increased area of effect?
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Kofajs написал:
If I try firestorm handcasting, it work with spell cascade. When I try to channeling WO with CwC firestorm cascade does not work. It doesnt look like bug, but intended change. If that is really the case, I bet energy shield leech will not work too :( maybe some hidden CwC nerf? I hope not, but I am not optimist. But it is strange that they didnt mention anything in patch notes.


You are saying the issue may also be with the ES leech gem, not leeching in ES in general right?
spell cascade bug update:

another player found out thet in fact CwC is the problem:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2453411/page/1#p21748890

i confirmed it with firestorm (ie. firestorm + cascade = OK, firestorm + cascade + CwC = BAD)

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