[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

Sometimes Uber Elder drops nice jewels, 3rd valuable (over 5 exalts) jewel this league from him :)



On the other hand this is why PathOfBuilding is the best 3rd party tool ever invented for this game:

My current so called "optimised" level 98 build tree:

https://pastebin.com/YsNNSu31





Real optimised level 98 build tree (same gear):

https://pastebin.com/Qu1NyYgf



Will change to it after i get home from work, missing "only" 29 intelligence to hit the 3000 Intelligence insane milestone! :)
Последняя редакция: lilianmarius#0775. Время: 9 июля 2019 г., 5:04:05
lilianmarius, gratz on having the resists to make that change! It'll be a while before I can find the items to do the same.

One thing I did notice was that your POB damage wasn't all that great (I think the maxed out gear build posted ~30 pages ago was around 80k.)
Последняя редакция: Graiaule#7461. Время: 9 июля 2019 г., 14:39:03
It depends what you want to optimise for. Two defensive curse, defensive gems, ES tree, etc. I think this is a matter of playstyle.

Personally I'm going to go for higher DPS than I currently have, as I find it more fun. But even then, I'll be going with ~14k ES on current gear + 2 defensive curses.

I don't know what gets you to ~80k per hit before curses, but I'm going to get to ~67k and it's tough to imagine many easy upgrades from there. -9% cold resist hat would be nice, but I don't think POB accounts for that.
Последняя редакция: NoImagination#6952. Время: 9 июля 2019 г., 16:36:12
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Graiaule написал:
lilianmarius, gratz on having the resists to make that change! It'll be a while before I can find the items to do the same.

One thing I did notice was that your POB damage wasn't all that great (I think the maxed out gear build posted ~30 pages ago was around 80k.)


My PoB average hit is probably the highest for this build on the server, i repeat myself, when you calculate the Shaper Average hit don't check all the "crazy one time modfiier" like Vaal RighthouseFire and damage flasks.

If you want to see numbers, here is the Shaper Average Hit with Frenzy charges checked (from Blood Rage) and Vaal Righthouse Fire checked also, but this value is not all the time available so i don't count on it.

If i check The Wise Oak and Sulphur flasks the Shaper Average Hit goes "through the roof" but as i said that value is only contextual not permanent.

What is more important is that Uber Elder dies in under 2.5 minutes with my current gear, i farm it like a normal boss (only time consuming "difficulty" is to spawn him and complete 8 guardians maps).



and the tooltip for single target "out of combat" - i don't think you have seen higher one for this build up till now:



Последняя редакция: lilianmarius#0775. Время: 9 июля 2019 г., 17:37:47
I only had "Are on always on Full Energy Shield?" checked in Configuration. I didn't click "Do you use Frenzy Charges?"

The reason I mentioned your dps was that, with only the above checked, my current well-under-max gear was running at 57670.4 dps, where yours was running at 53390.0 dps. That just surprised me, that's all.

My tooltip for single target out of combat is 17737.5, and I'm still missing at least 12% increased int on my chest (easy if and when I get a good roll *@#W!.)

It's interesting that tooltip comparison and POB comparison didn't say the same thing.

I agree defensiveness is good -- I use enfeeble, frostbite, blind. I'm primarily resistance challenged, so will have difficulty switching to the optimal tree (see below.)

Here's my version of your tree with your gear, where I manage to hit 3002 int.

https://pastebin.com/59zq2dxQ

Последняя редакция: Graiaule#7461. Время: 9 июля 2019 г., 18:10:02
How to make 16 exalts in 30 minutes of Delve

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Graiaule написал:
I only had "Are on always on Full Energy Shield?" checked in Configuration. I didn't click "Do you use Frenzy Charges?"

The reason I mentioned your dps was that, with only the above checked, my current well-under-max gear was running at 57670.4 dps, where yours was running at 53390.0 dps. That just surprised me, that's all.

My tooltip for single target out of combat is 17737.5, and I'm still missing at least 12% increased int on my chest (easy if and when I get a good roll *@#W!.)


Dude, next time when you calculate your DPS in PoB, select Shaper/Guardian in that dropdown from Configuration tab (Is this enemy a boss ?) and you will notice that the value is not really 53.390 but 35.816. That is your Average Shaper hit which is not bad but nowhere close to 54K i have with my gear (is almost 40% less damage)
Последняя редакция: lilianmarius#0775. Время: 9 июля 2019 г., 18:22:59
Aah lol I never noticed that tiny selection in PoB. OK, thanks for clarifying and making things make sense again.

So how do you like my change to your proposed tree?
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Graiaule написал:
Aah lol I never noticed that tiny selection in PoB. OK, thanks for clarifying and making things make sense again.

So how do you like my change to your proposed tree?


Seems legit, i didn't think of that route down from Ancestral Knowledge to convert Utmost Might, was simulating a close route to it left of Ancestral Knowledge and after that down which was worse in term of DPS.

With your route i get ~270 more ES, hit the 3k int milestone (from 2977) and only loose around 500 DPS for IceStorm Shaper Average hit, a bit more (around 1k) for Winter Orb - loosing 2x 6% projectile damage nodes that counts towards WO damage).

I may consider changing to it, thanks for sharing!

And a video with my first Aul this league, some bad mods but low depth (408) for those mods to hurt like crazy!

Whispering Ice CI Ascendant (Inquisitor/Occultis) vs. Aul-The Crystal King (Legion league)
Последняя редакция: lilianmarius#0775. Время: 10 июля 2019 г., 3:05:03
I decided to pay less attention to int. My tree is currently awful, and I really need to do something about my rings, gloves & hat. But 15.3k ES and:



In hideout/no buffs etc.
Последняя редакция: NoImagination#6952. Время: 10 июля 2019 г., 11:38:00
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NoImagination написал:
My tree is currently awful.


Dat tree, it hurts my eyes...

But it's nice to push the boundaries of what is possible. If Kelvynn ever returns, I think he'll appreciate where we've taken his build.

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