[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

Yeah, I can easily say this build is one of the best probably this league for farming simulacrums, with that awakened spell cascade you just stand in the center of the screen and hold down cyclone for 20 waves. Although it does take 20-40ex probably to get to this point. Can someone answer is stacking the "enemies have -10 cold resistance" is good or no? I have multiple genius + blanketed snow megalomanics and I was curious if taking a 300-600 es loss down to 10k from 12k would be worth it.

Edit: Also what would the best option for a 3rd curse be if I managed to grab a additional curse chest?
Последняя редакция: CharityCase#3962. Время: 19 апр. 2020 г., 19:58:31
Guys my tooltip growed up from 40k to 48k using these rings, what you think?
Ya idk, your at the point where its more about comfort.

My tooltips at 53k currently and thats with me sacrificing some INT and dps for more quality of life features.

You can get some pretty absurd numbers and the majority are completely not necessary. Just dont give up too much chasing a kajillion dps b/c anything over 30k or so tooltip is just icing on the cake imo.

Heres my setup atm, not seen is a;

Watchers Eye with Discipline ES on Hit + Discipline Increased ES Recovery Rate, Emperor's Wit Jewel, 1 Rare Jewel with INT, STR+INT, Cold Dmg, and Spell Dmg while using Staff, a metric shi* ton of INT/ES Split Personalities, and x2 Megalomaniacs with Overlord / Thaumophage / Hex Breaker / Master of Fear / Will Shaper / Widespread Destruction.






Little over 3.4k INT, 20k ES, 53k Ice Storm Tooltip.
Последняя редакция: JCOH35#4078. Время: 19 апр. 2020 г., 21:05:24
Path of Building (the PoB community Fork) has just been updated and now fully supports Split Personality Jewels! Have fun with your theory crafting!
Hmmm, just rolled this horsing around with some spites and an failed awakener ammy;



It ended up being more INT then my previous amulet and added about 500 ES. The deaf. spites are only like 5c atm, if you brick some awakener slams, annuls etc may as well throw some essences at it, theyre cheap this league.
Последняя редакция: JCOH35#4078. Время: 19 апр. 2020 г., 23:54:09
OK, messed with the new POB. This is for you, ichbin! Pastebins for POB version 1.4.169.2, note. These are apples-to-apples comparisons. I removed the Pure Talent jewel due to socket limits. All trees have good QoL. Level 95 character. To arch and lillian: tooltip damage listed below is ONLY for comparing the trees.

https://pastebin.com/P1v0DA2T
3286 int 12742 es 88015 dam 4353 mana +12% res (Nat's mod with some changes)

https://pastebin.com/ixb2kJ5i
3249 int 11994 es 97257 dam 2971 mana -6% res (Lingen's mod)

https://pastebin.com/VzLLvUQR
3134 int 12447 es 83286 dam 3519 mana -16% res (Kelvynn's posted tree)

The last two have one free jewel socket to get a resist jewel.

Nat's tree has enough resists I can use a different ring and get +36 int (haven't been able to find one yet.)

It's pretty clear that Lingen's tree is good if you have 4 large cluster jewels, else stick with Nat's tree (which is also easier on the resists.)

I'm so sad all this work will probably be thrown out for 3.11 (or, alternatively, the split personality jewels become significantly rarer.)
Последняя редакция: Graiaule#7461. Время: 20 апр. 2020 г., 2:15:22
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Graiaule написал:
OK, messed with the new POB.

https://pastebin.com/ixb2kJ5i
3249 int 11994 es 97257 dam 2971 mana -6% res (Lingen's mod)


I made a minor change.

https://pastebin.com/7MKPAtQv
3238 int 12938 es 96900 dam 3449 mana -6% res
Ok so the new PoB supports Split Personality jewels as well as catalysts. I've been testing the functionality in developer mode a few days ahead of this patch.

Things to note are that catalysts doesn't work with implicit stats yet so you still have to manually adjust those.

Split Personality doesn't work with other classes starting points in the game. However, PoB thinks it does, but it also in err calculates the path from Scion starting point adding a few points. In result it may look like pathing from Templar/Witch starting point may yield better results but its like 4-6 points that are added by PoB and it isn't compatible in the game anyway. I found an awesome path from Witch starting point and was about to change to it for my character but when I tested removing the Scion starting point the Split Personality jewels all said "No path found to your class starting point".
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Graiaule написал:
OK, messed with the new POB. This is for you, ichbin! Pastebins for POB version 1.4.169.2, note. These are apples-to-apples comparisons. I removed the Pure Talent jewel due to socket limits. All trees have good QoL. Level 95 character. To arch and lillian: tooltip damage listed below is ONLY for comparing the trees.

https://pastebin.com/P1v0DA2T
3286 int 12742 es 88015 dam 4353 mana +12% res (Nat's mod with some changes)

https://pastebin.com/ixb2kJ5i
3249 int 11994 es 97257 dam 2971 mana -6% res (Lingen's mod)

https://pastebin.com/VzLLvUQR
3134 int 12447 es 83286 dam 3519 mana -16% res (Kelvynn's posted tree)

The last two have one free jewel socket to get a resist jewel.

Nat's tree has enough resists I can use a different ring and get +36 int (haven't been able to find one yet.)

It's pretty clear that Lingen's tree is good if you have 4 large cluster jewels, else stick with Nat's tree (which is also easier on the resists.)

I'm so sad all this work will probably be thrown out for 3.11 (or, alternatively, the split personality jewels become significantly rarer.)


Tested all combos, for my gear, Naramie's tree is still the one that gives me the highest damage/ES/Int while capping the resistances and having enough mana left after reservation.

And that is not tooltip damage, that is Shaper Average Hit which is a bit more accurate (but not 100%) to make yourself an image about the damage output of your Icestorms :)

If you want a more accurate image about your real Icestorm DPS against a boss for example check this .xls Firestrom/Icestorm calculator (values inside are for my character) you can save a local copy and edit with your own values:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LibwmZw5yP_LevAMftK2AeEOwd-VIvOq2n1GainQMwQ/edit?usp=sharing
Последняя редакция: lilianmarius#0775. Время: 20 апр. 2020 г., 8:41:10
I recently adjusted my build to the one Nat is useing.

My PoB link. https://pastebin.com/aWeXwJCb

I prefer it over the extra cluster, cause it helps tremendously with resists.

My reasoning for doing so, is that i was very lucky and found an Cold to the Core / Overlord mega. Meaning i wont loose much damage compared to the quadruple major jewel ones. i was useing this before and have the gear and resists to support it, but this tree gives me som flexibility to add another medium cluster. which will give me:
Master of fear, and wish for death, and some extra pathing for a bit more INT / ES

Basically some QoL and customisability.

Sitting with my current gear and stats at around:

3300 int.

15.800 ES

143119.3 avg hit.
according to PoB.

Also i'm useing some INT / Eva Splits, which with my current setup give me 27% evasion.

Which is a nice addition.
Did some testing and Evasion does more to enhance EHp then when i interchange them to INT / Armor splits.

Yes i know, Es splits will give me more. but they are a tad pricey atm.


Also running a single INT / Dex Split, which adds around 60 dex to meet some dex requirements and add to the cold to the core clusters and the coil dps increases. Balancing dex and str is a game all in its own at times.

Anyways, just my 2cents for now.


Последняя редакция: Nathoriney#4444. Время: 20 апр. 2020 г., 8:15:40

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