[3.8] CI Mjolner CoC Ball Lightning Assassin - up to 6M Shaper DPS, 11k ES, 5k+ ES Recovery/s

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telosei написал:


i'm still confused about the " gmp BL share the same cast/trigger cooldown " tho :<

Removing charisma and aspect of the spider grant me 19% unreserved mana, anything i can do with those ? :<

Edit : got some idea of very strong affix i'd look for on : helm/chest/ring/boots and belt ?

for helm i chase enchant + -9% elem resi
chest : STR
boots: innervate and tailwind
ring : elem dmg / crit multi / STR ( how strong is assassins mark ? considering going triple curse mh )
belt: full ES + maybe lightning dmg

anything else i forgot/don't know that really add some spice to dmg ?

ty <3


you seem confused. why remove spider? its a huge damage boost.
forget tripple curse (even dual curse, not worth the points)
flat damage on rings
CDR on belt and get aps to 7.5
read poe.wiki -> ball lightning
Hello ;

First here's my pob link https://pastebin.com/KxkccWvG

@Jolo : so i can't shock through BL , i discovered this in the meantime between my post and your answer :> so yeah no innervate

-about ball lightning gmp if i don't have enough attack speed to reach the 7,5 thresold i guess having 1 extra projectile makes sense to reach the maximum number of tick per second ? honestly i have no idea how i can reach 7,5 tick per second right now with only one ball ?
if i have 8,0 tick per second thresold and 4,0 atk spd , spawing 2 ball can help me reach the 8,0 tick per second thresold or am i still confused about this mechanics ? :<

-i took blast radius for the 20% fire resistance from lethal pride ( my lethal pride on pob is edited with the correct stats, it just miss 10% inc effect of fortify and 5% double dmg ) and the 4 STR from the previous node in order to reach 412 STR

-I am using dying sun and wise oak but not altogether because my current resi are 76/76/76 , wanted the triple elemental damage reduction from it :>

-Im not interested into double corrupting my gear, i mean this is really too much expansive at that point :<
looked to add herald of thunder but i'd need +1 lvl on top of elem weakness on hit on shaper's touch and there's none in sell atm and i'd drop one gem slot for it and i dunno which gem i can drop rn tbh, was thinking about ice golem or flame dash but dunno mh, the dmg i got from herald of thunder isn't even that sexy lol and i'd need to take extra node of mana reduced (sovereignety ) so mmmhhhhh dunno i need to do more PoB warrior-ing :>


@Nomad : why removing aspect of spider ? BECAUSE OF THE LAG SPIKE lmao it makes my fps drop so much ;-; it's playable but i need to play in like 1080p with all graphical effect disabled in order to get something not so bad ;-; and my rig isn't even bad 1080ti + i7 7700k mh

i did read wiki on ball lightning + a thread ( this one http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/960492/page/1 ) but mh there's still some interaction i don't really fully understand yet

also when you say forget about double curse, welp i'm already running elem weakness + conductivity >.< and it's big damage :o



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telosei написал:
Hello ;

First here's my pob link https://pastebin.com/KxkccWvG

@Jolo : so i can't shock through BL , i discovered this in the meantime between my post and your answer :> so yeah no innervate


Did you read the page I linked for innervate? Say you're trying to kill Drox who spawns adds. Innervate supports Vortex. Vortex can shock and kill enemies. If one of those shocked adds dies from Vortex, you get Innervation which adds lightning damage to all your skills.

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telosei написал:

-about ball lightning gmp if i don't have enough attack speed to reach the 7,5 thresold i guess having 1 extra projectile makes sense to reach the maximum number of tick per second ? honestly i have no idea how i can reach 7,5 tick per second right now with only one ball ?
if i have 8,0 tick per second thresold and 4,0 atk spd , spawing 2 ball can help me reach the 8,0 tick per second thresold or am i still confused about this mechanics ? :<


Basically, the simple way to look at it is this. There are CDR breakpoints and corresponding attack speeds you want to have to maximize ball lightning and thus DPS output.

No CDR > ~6 APS
14% CDR > ~7.5 APS
Next breakpoint is 52% so that requires heavy investment and fine tuning but getting to the 14% craft on belt is good as you'll be able to get procs from your weapon and chest ball lightning.

The one extra projectile may help reduce the need for positioning on bosses but if the boss moves away from any of the lightning balls then the ticks won't happen regardless.

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telosei написал:

-i took blast radius for the 20% fire resistance from lethal pride ( my lethal pride on pob is edited with the correct stats, it just miss 10% inc effect of fortify and 5% double dmg ) and the 4 STR from the previous node in order to reach 412 STR

-I am using dying sun and wise oak but not altogether because my current resi are 76/76/76 , wanted the triple elemental damage reduction from it :>

-Im not interested into double corrupting my gear, i mean this is really too much expansive at that point :<
looked to add herald of thunder but i'd need +1 lvl on top of elem weakness on hit on shaper's touch and there's none in sell atm and i'd drop one gem slot for it and i dunno which gem i can drop rn tbh, was thinking about ice golem or flame dash but dunno mh, the dmg i got from herald of thunder isn't even that sexy lol and i'd need to take extra node of mana reduced (sovereignety ) so mmmhhhhh dunno i need to do more PoB warrior-ing :>


@Nomad : why removing aspect of spider ? BECAUSE OF THE LAG SPIKE lmao it makes my fps drop so much ;-; it's playable but i need to play in like 1080p with all graphical effect disabled in order to get something not so bad ;-; and my rig isn't even bad 1080ti + i7 7700k mh

i did read wiki on ball lightning + a thread ( this one http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/960492/page/1 ) but mh there's still some interaction i don't really fully understand yet

also when you say forget about double curse, welp i'm already running elem weakness + conductivity >.< and it's big damage :o



I'll check the POB later when I have access.

So if Dying Sun messes up your resist balance for Wise Oak, then do you only use it for clear? I have no problem clearing and I only have extra projectiles from GMP in weapon.

Yes double corrupting is expensive gambling but you asked about increasing DPS so I was just listing options and routes. You need to read more carefully though. Sovereignty gives you space to run either Herald of Thunder or Aspect of Spider. You can choose whichever gives you more DPS. But also that and nodes leading up to it increase your DPS and ES by increasing the effects of Zealotry and Discipline and Precision.

I don't think there is a third curse that increased the DPS more, maybe Projectile Weakness but I would need to crunch the numbers.

If you can cap crit already, then I would also suggest getting a different Watcher's Eye with a more damage oriented mod along with the ES on hit. Your choices are:
Crit Multi by Precision
Elemental Penetration for Crits by Zealotry
Increased Damage on Consecrated Ground by Zealotry (only if you don't get Bottled Faith as I believe the effects don't stack)

An option is gain Arcane Surge when creating Consecrated Ground while affected by Zealotry as that lets you drop Arcane Surge from links to put in Herald of Thunder.
does anyone have a suggesting for porcupines? quite annoying
if anyone has some spare time id like to know where my character is sitting upgrade wise i know i still need a fort mjolnir i dont think i have the currency to re do my gear for woke coc, anything would be appreciated

thanks in advance <3
Hello Everyone,

I've had a ton of fun with this build and going to try something wild for my next one, so selling off my items. Of note I believe is my lethal pride I talked about a few pages ago. Comes with 15% double damage on great nodes, extra ES regen (with Zealots Oath) and 5% strength if you go the golem commander route. Selling it for 30ex or best offer if anyone is interested. Can screen share during the sale as well.

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Ichigo_333 написал:
does anyone have a suggesting for porcupines? quite annoying
if anyone has some spare time id like to know where my character is sitting upgrade wise i know i still need a fort mjolnir i dont think i have the currency to re do my gear for woke coc, anything would be appreciated

thanks in advance <3


Have enough defence and leech so you can ignore them and just cyclone through them like any other mob :p
Otherwise dealing with them is very annoying.
@Jolo : I did read innervate wiki page and decided it was not worth the price thats why i said i'd drop the idea to get it :p

Like vortex can actually kill anything before one of my ball :p

-About CDR, there are breakpoints :o good to know ! tho you told me to get CDR on belt when i already have woke cast on crit :> i'd need to find like 30% on top of woke coc to reach 52% mh ...

-also i do read carefully but i think there's a misunderstanding because you did not see my actual PoB yet ^^

-better to forget about third curse yeah ..

Im not sure i can reach crit cap without +crit chance on consecrated ground tbh but the watcher eye mod you mentionned all sounds nice so i'd better check more carefully :>

Thanks you and see you once you get back from work !


Edit : whats wrong with blind on my jewel ? isn't blind very good for survavibility ? :o
Последняя редакция: telosei#5736. Время: 22 янв. 2020 г., 17:01:22
I am not sure if this will benefit us but it's in the last patch notes:

The Mark of the Shaper and Mark of the Elder unique rings now grant both bonuses if your other ring is Shaper and Elder influenced.
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telosei написал:
@Jolo : I did read innervate wiki page and decided it was not worth the price thats why i said i'd drop the idea to get it :p

Like vortex can actually kill anything before one of my ball :p

-About CDR, there are breakpoints :o good to know ! tho you told me to get CDR on belt when i already have woke cast on crit :> i'd need to find like 30% on top of woke coc to reach 52% mh ...

-also i do read carefully but i think there's a misunderstanding because you did not see my actual PoB yet ^^

-better to forget about third curse yeah ..

Im not sure i can reach crit cap without +crit chance on consecrated ground tbh but the watcher eye mod you mentionned all sounds nice so i'd better check more carefully :>

Thanks you and see you once you get back from work !


Edit : whats wrong with blind on my jewel ? isn't blind very good for survavibility ? :o


All I'm saying is that you asked for suggestions. Do you want more damage at the cost of surviveability or a balance. If you want a balance, you need to pick and choose what you end up taking.

For jewels, Morbid Arbiter and Grim Leer both offer no damage increase. So you can swap them for damage jewels that still have ES and/or resists. Blind is nice, but dead enemies also don't do damage. If you want Blind, you can swap Dying Sun for a stibnite flask. Or you can take Bottled Faith and change the Watcher's Eye to have a better damage mod than the crit chance.

For the breakpoints, you need more Attack Speed to get closer to the 7.5 breakpoint. You get the CDR on belt to let the weapon ball match the chest ball. You're not aiming for the 52% CDR breakpoint. Also I realized you don't use GMP in the offhand which is why the helm enchant makes your clear feel better. I just use GMP there for better clear spread then swap GMP for Culling Strike in weapon for bosses.

EDIT: Here is a slightly modified version of your tree that has some of the changes I mentioned without changing gear except for the amulet annoint and dropping Dying Sun for Bottled Faith. If you can afford your current gear sans Headhunter then Bottled Faith should be a piece of cake.

Once you level up, you can take Arcane Potency.
https://pastebin.com/dvyCux1U
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Ichigo_333 написал:
does anyone have a suggesting for porcupines? quite annoying
if anyone has some spare time id like to know where my character is sitting upgrade wise i know i still need a fort mjolnir i dont think i have the currency to re do my gear for woke coc, anything would be appreciated

thanks in advance <3


A simple solution is to Carry Call of the Brotherhood ring with you for those annoying maps and swap it in instead of Mark of the Shaper if you use that combo. But you also need to replace Elemental Focus in one of your setups for something else so you will deal elemental ailments!

Personally I do that, swap Elemental Focus in my Mjölner setup with Awakened Added Lightning from my chest and even 8M corrupted maps with Porcupines become easy!

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