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What aura's do you typically run beer? I have a similar setup as your profile and can't get them all cast at once so was curious which you use and when?
Feel like I'm missing something at the end game/boss fights.
In standard I have pretty stupid legacy stuff equipped, so I wouldn’t take too much stock in that setup.
In league, I run the prism guardian setup with - clarity and precision linked to a level 16 BM along with zealotry, hatred and discipline linked on the PG.
On mana I have spider, enfeeble and skitterbots. No need for any enlightens.
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СообщениеBeerLeague1 февр. 2020 г., 20:36:49
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For the one fire damage we need, does it specifically have to be Adds x to x Fire Damage to spells, or would Adds x to x Fire Damage to Attacks work as well.
Attacks does not work. Need to either be general, or to spells.
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СообщениеBeerLeague1 февр. 2020 г., 20:37:48
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I am thinking about crafting a wand with a +1 to spell/ +1 to cold as a base, then metacrafting a tier 1 suffix than multimoding, 76% spell damage and a decent suffix. Do you think this makes sense and how would you go about getting the base.
I see the alterations way which seems unlikely. I could buy the base without a bad prefix and clear up the suffixes but its super super expensive if available. I could also buy a cheap base with +1 to spell without any other prefix and beastcraft it and pray to the Gods. There is also the fossil way..
What do you think, any better way/ is this a good plan in the first place?
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Сообщениеpietoner1 февр. 2020 г., 21:48:28
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is the Gem links updated to the 3.9 one or better to go your char? Got fully geared and bought to buy gems to try this bad boy out
I see most plp running the following 6l set up
i see everyone running icicline mine/inspiration/trap and mine damage support/pierce support/hypothermia/awake controlled destruction support
Which gem would they swap out for single target?
CWDT > Steelskin > Clarity - clarity should be unlinked ( I got a watchers clarity/hatred )
Chaos Golem > Frost Bomb > Portal
Flash Dash > Faster Casting > Arcane Surge > Phase Run
Blasphemy Support > Enfeeble > Disciple > Enlighten level 4
Blood Magic > Flesh and Stone > Skitterbots > Enlighten lvl 3
I have aspect on boots, also no ZO on this build?
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СообщениеBob123aka2 февр. 2020 г., 1:07:22
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Hi, and thanks for the build, I just have a few questions after converting to this recently
So after playing skeletons till yesterday, I converted a level 88 character to this build after buying the gems and gear (I was super amped by my helm outcome!). The only thing I couldn't sort was the ring setup, so I'm using two rares instead of a Mark of the Shaper and rare as suggested, and also didn't end up getting Spider Aura yet since I can't get an Enlighten 4 atm. The character ended up with 8.1k ES, res capped, negligible block chance.
I am currently set up like this:
I am, however, running into some damage issues, and I don't know if it's something wrong with my setup or my playstyle. Metamorphs in red maps (even when they don't have regen mods) are a real challenge, I couldn't complete a HOTGM. Overall single target feels very weak and I don't even want to imagine a Sirus fight at the moment.
So the question is: what am I lacking in my setup to achieve good single target with Icicle in particular? How do I determine whether pen is better for my current setup than inspiration? Would getting the correct rings solve the problems? I would appreciate any comments on the gear or question/guidance on the playstyle to fix my damage issues, thanks!
Not having any PEN this league will kill you. You either need 40%+ from gear/passives or you need to be running cold pen / awakened cold pen. That should be in place of your red gem. That should fix a majority of your damage issues.
For hotgm, just make sure you are not in cull range (20% - some slayers in there) and you should be able to just face tank everything.
For spider, you don’t need enlighten 4, 3 should work, or you don’t need any enlightens with the prism guardian setup. Spider is the best dps aura in the build though, I’d make sure to fit it in.
As for the rings, it’s personal preference, but if you can get the res elsewhere, you only lose 50 flat ES for around 8% more dps.
Thanks both danismint and Beer for the replies.
I updated my gear to the following:
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I also updated my tree to the one suggested in the "Looking for more DPS and playing SC? No Enlighten Max DPS Setup below" section, still felt the need to add Enlighten 3 to the Skitterbots and Curse aura links in order to have enough free mana to actually throw out a stack (192 unreserved with Enlighten 3, 131 unreserved without, mine costs 7 mana per cast). I know the replacement wand I got isn't the best thing in the world, but it did make the damage feel quite a bit better. The damage definitely still doesn't feel anywhere near boss or mob deletion, and my POB is showing 118k average hit on icicle. I don't have more currency to spend and T15s and T16s still get me killed to the point where I haven't been able to progress past lvl89. Honestly, I don't think it's anything to do with the build (although I still don't quite understand what the hell I'm doing wrong), just that I don't 'get' it, so I might have to call it. :<
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СообщениеFrizz_za2 февр. 2020 г., 5:19:08
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I am thinking about crafting a wand with a +1 to spell/ +1 to cold as a base, then metacrafting a tier 1 suffix than multimoding, 76% spell damage and a decent suffix. Do you think this makes sense and how would you go about getting the base.
I see the alterations way which seems unlikely. I could buy the base without a bad prefix and clear up the suffixes but its super super expensive if available. I could also buy a cheap base with +1 to spell without any other prefix and beastcraft it and pray to the Gods. There is also the fossil way..
What do you think, any better way/ is this a good plan in the first place?
There really isn’t a great method imo. Fossils don’t have a huge hit rate, but may be the best way to go.
gL they are pretty rare
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СообщениеBeerLeague2 февр. 2020 г., 7:46:06
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is the Gem links updated to the 3.9 one or better to go your char? Got fully geared and bought to buy gems to try this bad boy out
I see most plp running the following 6l set up
i see everyone running icicline mine/inspiration/trap and mine damage support/pierce support/hypothermia/awake controlled destruction support
Which gem would they swap out for single target?
CWDT > Steelskin > Clarity - clarity should be unlinked ( I got a watchers clarity/hatred )
Chaos Golem > Frost Bomb > Portal
Flash Dash > Faster Casting > Arcane Surge > Phase Run
Blasphemy Support > Enfeeble > Disciple > Enlighten level 4
Blood Magic > Flesh and Stone > Skitterbots > Enlighten lvl 3
I have aspect on boots, also no ZO on this build?
Swift assembly is a 54% damage modifier. It’s the best gem you can run. I’d run that in place of the red gem.
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СообщениеBeerLeague2 февр. 2020 г., 7:48:22
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Hi, and thanks for the build, I just have a few questions after converting to this recently
So after playing skeletons till yesterday, I converted a level 88 character to this build after buying the gems and gear (I was super amped by my helm outcome!). The only thing I couldn't sort was the ring setup, so I'm using two rares instead of a Mark of the Shaper and rare as suggested, and also didn't end up getting Spider Aura yet since I can't get an Enlighten 4 atm. The character ended up with 8.1k ES, res capped, negligible block chance.
I am currently set up like this:
I am, however, running into some damage issues, and I don't know if it's something wrong with my setup or my playstyle. Metamorphs in red maps (even when they don't have regen mods) are a real challenge, I couldn't complete a HOTGM. Overall single target feels very weak and I don't even want to imagine a Sirus fight at the moment.
So the question is: what am I lacking in my setup to achieve good single target with Icicle in particular? How do I determine whether pen is better for my current setup than inspiration? Would getting the correct rings solve the problems? I would appreciate any comments on the gear or question/guidance on the playstyle to fix my damage issues, thanks!
Not having any PEN this league will kill you. You either need 40%+ from gear/passives or you need to be running cold pen / awakened cold pen. That should be in place of your red gem. That should fix a majority of your damage issues.
For hotgm, just make sure you are not in cull range (20% - some slayers in there) and you should be able to just face tank everything.
For spider, you don’t need enlighten 4, 3 should work, or you don’t need any enlightens with the prism guardian setup. Spider is the best dps aura in the build though, I’d make sure to fit it in.
As for the rings, it’s personal preference, but if you can get the res elsewhere, you only lose 50 flat ES for around 8% more dps.
Thanks both danismint and Beer for the replies.
I updated my gear to the following:
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I also updated my tree to the one suggested in the "Looking for more DPS and playing SC? No Enlighten Max DPS Setup below" section, still felt the need to add Enlighten 3 to the Skitterbots and Curse aura links in order to have enough free mana to actually throw out a stack (192 unreserved with Enlighten 3, 131 unreserved without, mine costs 7 mana per cast). I know the replacement wand I got isn't the best thing in the world, but it did make the damage feel quite a bit better. The damage definitely still doesn't feel anywhere near boss or mob deletion, and my POB is showing 118k average hit on icicle. I don't have more currency to spend and T15s and T16s still get me killed to the point where I haven't been able to progress past lvl89. Honestly, I don't think it's anything to do with the build (although I still don't quite understand what the hell I'm doing wrong), just that I don't 'get' it, so I might have to call it. :<
Should be doing way more dps than that, like I said in another post, it could be a playstyle issue. Check the videos I linked from 3.9 in the OP. That’s about the kind of dps you should be doing.
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СообщениеBeerLeague2 февр. 2020 г., 7:50:52
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Hey, have another newbie doubt.
About Abyss Jewels... You say "On Kill" or "On Hit" doesn't work because our mines do the "hit-kill", not us. So... "If you've killed recently" or "dealt recently" neither?
And what about "Damage Penetrates 2% Elemental Resistance if you haven't Killed Recently", it's good?
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СообщениеNGXIS2 февр. 2020 г., 8:26:33
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Hey, have another newbie doubt.
About Abyss Jewels... You say "On Kill" or "On Hit" doesn't work because our mines do the "hit-kill", not us. So... "If you've killed recently" or "dealt recently" neither?
And what about "Damage Penetrates 2% Elemental Resistance if you haven't Killed Recently", it's good?
Correct. They don’t work.
Anything that says hasn’t/haven’t killed recently like the boot enchant or the pen is quite good as we never get any kills.
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СообщениеBeerLeague2 февр. 2020 г., 10:02:02
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