[3.11] CoC Ball Lightning Assassin - 20M+ Shaper DPS/10k ES/fortify - League Starter Guide Included

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N0esy написал:
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Outlaw9922 написал:
at this point im not exactly sure what i should be focusing on maybe my ring. can i get any direction on what to address first? ty in advance




First of all, your aps is too high. Ditch lightning golem and passive skills that grant attack speed.

Second, you are using two curses without level 5 awakened hextouch support. This doesn't work. Remove one of them or take the +1 curse limit notable in the passive tree.

Third, you should find a good megalomaniac with overlord and use a rare large cluster jewel.

Finally, your amulet is bad. As I stated in the guide, what you need is flat ES, attributes and crit multi. I also stated multiple times in the guide that +1 to level of lightning gem is the last mod you are looking for. I have seen so many people picking up a bad amulet with +1 to lighting gems... This is a trap since other mods on the amulet tend to be shitty, like this one. If you get attributes from amulet, you don't have to take dex from the passive tree etc, which in turn makes you stronger.



Maybe i followed the aps chart wrong being i have the highest CDR i would need 10.1 aps. i swapped CG to LG to get me there. ill look over it again.

ill be honest never even noticed ill buy the awakened gem thanks for pointing that out.

as for the cluster's got the best one that was to offer and stopped searching ill keep a live search going since my overlord is in the large cluster.

ill look for a better amulet as well thanks again for the help.
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Outlaw9922 написал:

Maybe i followed the aps chart wrong being i have the highest CDR i would need 10.1 aps. i swapped CG to LG to get me there. ill look over it again.


Your calc would be...

cyclone(3)*tailwind(1.1)*weapon(1.9)*(other increased)

where (other increased) is onslaught (20%), elusive (15%), ring (3%), corrupted blood jewel (12%), retribution (5%), fuel the fight (8%), lightning golem (6%)... so total of 69% there...

3*1.1*1.9*1.69 = 10.596 so you are a bit over. If you drop onslaught you would be at 9.34 all the time which is kind of cool. Or just shave off golem, ring, or some other stuff as noesy suggested. Also, for craft on ring, +1 minimum frenzy charges is better than attack speed (grants you 4% attack speed and also 4% MORE damage).

edit: for APS breakpoints, you always need to be BELOW that APS, if it wasn't clear.
Последняя редакция: efun. Время: 22 окт. 2020 г., 23:53:16
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efun написал:
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Outlaw9922 написал:

Maybe i followed the aps chart wrong being i have the highest CDR i would need 10.1 aps. i swapped CG to LG to get me there. ill look over it again.


Your calc would be...

cyclone(3)*tailwind(1.1)*weapon(1.9)*(other increased)

where (other increased) is onslaught (20%), elusive (15%), ring (3%), corrupted blood jewel (12%), retribution (5%), fuel the fight (8%), lightning golem (6%)... so total of 69% there...

3*1.1*1.9*1.69 = 10.596 so you are a bit over. If you drop onslaught you would be at 9.34 all the time which is kind of cool. Or just shave off golem, ring, or some other stuff as noesy suggested. Also, for craft on ring, +1 minimum frenzy charges is better than attack speed (grants you 4% attack speed and also 4% MORE damage).

edit: for APS breakpoints, you always need to be BELOW that APS, if it wasn't clear.



After going over everything as you said, I'm honestly confused as heck. I did a map with my character window open the whole time so unless that math equation is wrong or the display is off

https://imgur.com/a/IONl1Wt

i never went above 10.1 aps
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Outlaw9922 написал:
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efun написал:
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Outlaw9922 написал:

Maybe i followed the aps chart wrong being i have the highest CDR i would need 10.1 aps. i swapped CG to LG to get me there. ill look over it again.


Your calc would be...

cyclone(3)*tailwind(1.1)*weapon(1.9)*(other increased)

where (other increased) is onslaught (20%), elusive (15%), ring (3%), corrupted blood jewel (12%), retribution (5%), fuel the fight (8%), lightning golem (6%)... so total of 69% there...

3*1.1*1.9*1.69 = 10.596 so you are a bit over. If you drop onslaught you would be at 9.34 all the time which is kind of cool. Or just shave off golem, ring, or some other stuff as noesy suggested. Also, for craft on ring, +1 minimum frenzy charges is better than attack speed (grants you 4% attack speed and also 4% MORE damage).

edit: for APS breakpoints, you always need to be BELOW that APS, if it wasn't clear.



After going over everything as you said, I'm honestly confused as heck. I did a map with my character window open the whole time so unless that math equation is wrong or the display is off

https://imgur.com/a/IONl1Wt

i never went above 10.1 aps

It seems that tailwind doesn't work with cyclone... I just found a reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/jgha1x/cyclone_as_not_affected_by_tailwind_or_action/

So yeah, your aps is fine. I didn't know that.
Hello,

what is the most recent version of PoB ?

I’m a little lost in the first message.

thx
question for anyone or op... in game with all flask up 10.2 showing in char field for cyclone attack speed.. but in pob fork it says exactly 10.08..using same char as op scion version..
plus gems in tree this normal?
IGN ARROWUPYOURAZZ
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kazzbdx написал:
Hello,

what is the most recent version of PoB ?

I’m a little lost in the first message.

thx

Can you elaborate a bit more? Why are you lost?
The last time I played this build is in 3.10, so none of the listed PoB here is up to date.
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dragnmith1 написал:
question for anyone or op... in game with all flask up 10.2 showing in char field for cyclone attack speed.. but in pob fork it says exactly 10.08..using same char as op scion version..

I loaded your character on PoB, and it says the aps of cyclone is 10.2. I guess you forgot to include one of the jewels (Empyrean Silver) in your calculation? If you unsocket this jewel, the aps becomes 10.08.

P.S. Your militant faith has "4% increased area damage per 10 devotion", but it's useless since it doesn't scale ball lightning damage. You need the elemental damage one.
Последняя редакция: N0esy. Время: 24 окт. 2020 г., 17:34:56
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N0esy написал:
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dragnmith1 написал:
question for anyone or op... in game with all flask up 10.2 showing in char field for cyclone attack speed.. but in pob fork it says exactly 10.08..using same char as op scion version..

I loaded your character on PoB, and it says the aps of cyclone is 10.2. I guess you forgot to include one of the jewels (Empyrean Silver) in your calculation? If you unsocket this jewel, the aps becomes 10.08.

P.S. Your militant faith has "4% increased area damage per 10 devotion", but it's useless since it doesn't scale ball lightning damage. You need the elemental damage one.
Thx you yes i forgot that 1 in my calculation all set now 10.1 in game screen Big Thx you op!!! changed the Militant Faith as well miss that too ;-)
IGN ARROWUPYOURAZZ
Sorry for Newbie question in advance, have not read through whole thread, maybe it is answered already...

I am still somewhat confused with CDR/APS values and would appreciate a short answer about my current setup:
- I have 33% CDR (Belt & Awakened CoC Gem)
- Cyclone has 6.21 APS, with Elusive activated 7.09 and with Elusive & Silver flask activated it's at 8.02

I understand that my CDR is ok in the range of 14-51%, but what about the APS? Do I understand correctly, that I should not exceed 7.57 (or 7.56?), or is it ok to have APS in the range between 7.57 and 10.1? Should I stop using Silver flask, because it is a damage loss due to exceeding the max trigger point?

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