[3.21] Aegis Incinerate Elementalist - Tank with over 10mil Shaper DPS!

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

ok we now have the masteries!!!!!

Dang you beat me to it :D

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"+600 to Armour while affected by a Guard Skill Buff" <------

This sounded good to me too, but now I wonder if molten shell is active on us, our armor is already through the roof, have to check POB if is wasted.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Determination has 25% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency" (see below)

I liked this one, but this means 37.5% mana reserved instead, if we have no other source of MRE? Could save us some points on the passive tree.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Enemies you Curse are Hindered, with 15% reduced Movement Speed" <--------

I don't think this is helpful to us. We don't kite mobs.

"Non-Cursed Enemies you inflict Non-Aura Curses on are Blinded for 4 seconds" might still be good, depending on how they nerf blind.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Fire Exposure you inflict applies an extra -5% to Fire Resistance" <-----

I would guess this is about another 4% more damage, not bad at all.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"20% chance to cover Enemies in Ash when they Hit you" <---- (basically increasing the uptime of Infernal Call)

I only used infernal call for bosses, and since we can already apply ash I'm not sure this is worth it.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Corrupted Blood cannot be inflicted on you" <-----
"You cannot be Maimed, You cannot be Hindered" <-----
"20% reduced Effect of Curses on you" <--------
"+12% to all Elemental Resistances, +7% to Chaos Resistance" <-----

Corrupted blood yes please, until we can get it on a jewel.

With our boots we can no longer be mained or hindered, right?

I like the +resists, with so many uniques in the build I often struggle with resists.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Regenerate 2% of Energy Shield per second" <-----------
"Gain 3% of Maximum Mana as Extra Maximum Energy Shield" <-----------
"Discipline has 25% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency" (see below)

regen about 50-60 ES a second... it's ok?

3% of max mana is about 50 extra max ES. I don't think we have that much %ES increase to take advantage of this.

Discipline mana reservation: this can help with mana and possibly save tree nodes.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"10% increased maximum Life, "10% reduced Life Recovery rate" (???)

"+50 to maximum Life" <--------

Yes +50 max life.

I assume your ??? means you are not sure what that means. My understanding is if you have say 10% INCREASED life recovery, your regen/leech of 100 hp a second becomes 110. So this would be in reverse, becoming 90 instead.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Final Repeat of Spells has 30% increased Area of Effect" (I don't understand)

I think this means things like unleash or spell echo, the last cast of the spell has 30% more AOE.

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Exposure you inflict applies at least -18% to the affected Resistance" <----

"+15% to all Elemental Resistances" <----

"1% of Elemental Damage Leeched as Energy Shield" <-----

Elementalist Mastermind of Discover already gives -25%, so this is useless to us. For others where they do 1 point of fire with WoC, it would guarantee -18% exposure.

Yup more resist for hobo players like me

Yes ES leech good if we can't get it on a cluster jewel

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"8% increased Damage for each of your Aura or Herald Skills affecting you" <--
"15% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency of Skills"
"Auras from your Skills have 15% increased Effect on you" <-----

All good

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"+2% to maximum Chance to Block Attack Damage" <-----
"+2% to maximum Chance to Block Spell Damage" <----
"3% increased Spell Damage per 5% Chance to Block Spell Damage" <---

All good, although I'm not sure if we can max spell block still in 3.16?

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

"Increases and Reductions to Armour also apply to Energy Shield Recharge rate at 20% of their value" <-----

"20% reduced Effect of Curses on you" <-----

When the manifesto talks about ES Recharge should be the main way of recovering ES, I'm like ugh, no one likes it because you can't continuously recover like you can with regen/leech. So I'm not sure if this notable is really that great.

reduced curse effect never hurts, just if it is worth the 1 passive tree node is debatable, esp when we can still do warding flask

Great comments @Chubbypuppy!! Here are some responses


*If we have the unique belt, we should not be using the warding flask else we lose all its benefit.

*Great point about the exposure, I forgot that it did not stack.

*Molten Shell will still be very useful in the build, especially if we divert to Swagger instead of Inexorable

*I know we don't kite, but slowing anyone down tends to be helpful when being swarmed, I do agree though that it is far from OP.

*I don't understand when you don't use IC when mapping, it is so strong for clearing to create the chain explosions. The community was so bummed when they lost the explosive chests but we can still explode very easily.

*I believe we can still be maimed and hindered with our boots. The boots protect against movement speed but not action speed. I might be wrong though. Maybe @Claeysken knows

*ES is suppose to be easier to get this league but even if I only get around 4k like normal, the 2% regen would be about 80. Our big enemy defensively is DOT so any forms of regen we can stack tends to be very good for us especially when we stand still in degen ground to deliver damage.

*Can you explain more about why you don't think we can get to max spell block this league? I have not investigated the json file to that depth yet.

I think we lost the Lucidity Cluster on the tree which means we may have to find Stun Avoidance elsewhere.

Unwavering Focus was buffed so we picked up 10% extra avoidance in that notable.

Hmm people on reddit are saying this will work in conjunction to Elementalist asendency

"Exposure you inflict applies at least -18% to the affected Resistance"


The wording in elementalist is as follows:

Exposure you inflict applies an extra -25% to the affected Resistance


Wave of Conviction applies 15% exposure. Elementalist adds 25% to this giving us 40%.

If we take the mastery, I think we pick up 3% (ie Wave of Conviction will apply 18% and then Elementalist will still add its 25% on for 43% total).

I don't know if the extra 3% is worth the point though....

There are so many changes on the tree, I have no idea if the tree will be a buff, a nerf or neutral.

Arcane Guardian got absolutely nuked if the temp tree I am looking at is correct :(

I am also having problems finding any new Max elemental res nodes in our area. This was an important piece of replacing Fortify and now I think we won't be able to use it. We may have to divert and take Anointed Flesh but that is not a great use of 3 points :(

The more I look at the tree, the more disappointed I am getting :(

My biases and preferences are showing in my replies, as well as the opportunity cost of a passive point. I've only reached 92 (93?) ever so my points are very tight.

>>> If we have the unique belt, we should not be using the warding flask else we lose all its benefit.

Even in my most prosperous leagues I have never owned a headhunter, so I don't count on having this belt. If we do have this belt then I will including warding, because I think stacking 100% reduced curse effect costs too much for this build, and being curse immune is super nice.

>>> Great point about the exposure, I forgot that it did not stack.

In my 3.15 standard league POB, -25% is about 20% more damage, so 3% is maybe 2.5%? OK for 1 point.

>>> Molten Shell will still be very useful in the build, especially if we divert to Swagger instead of Inexorable

Oh definitely I plan to use MS, my comment was just saying this node adds armor when guard skill is up, and if MS is active then we already have a ton of armor, so not sure if this is worth it.

The node that gives +1ES per armor on helm might be good. With inward eye that's another 150 base ES.


>>> I know we don't kite, but slowing anyone down tends to be helpful when being swarmed, I do agree though that it is far from OP.

Standing still gives the 10% vines damage protection. Me GRIMLOCK me no run! (falls over dead).


>>> I don't understand when you don't use IC when mapping, it is so strong for clearing to create the chain explosions. The community was so bummed when they lost the explosive chests but we can still explode very easily.

Here my preference shows. I used herald of ash instead of arctic armor, for more damage and clear. I like the MTX I use with it, and warcries not being instant is a little annoying, so I only use it for boss or heavy ultimatum scenarios.


>>> I believe we can still be maimed and hindered with our boots. The boots protect against movement speed but not action speed. I might be wrong though. Maybe @Claeysken knows

I know for sure Hinder does not affect us, that was a free mod for me in Ultamatum. Maim is 30% reduced movement speed so I assume we are immune as well.

>>> ES is suppose to be easier to get this league but even if I only get around 4k like normal, the 2% regen would be about 80. Our big enemy defensively is DOT so any forms of regen we can stack tends to be very good for us especially when we stand still in degen ground to deliver damage.

It's definitely nice, just if it is worth a point, since we have so much ES recovery already. But your point about degen is good.

>>> Can you explain more about why you don't think we can get to max spell block this league? I have not investigated the json file to that depth yet.

I may have gotten myself confused with spell dodge, ignore this comment :D

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AndyLovesHisBge написал:

Arcane Guardian got absolutely nuked if the temp tree I am looking at is correct :(

Arcane Guardian's damage is not nuked as bad as I thought. I forgot that all the damage has been placed inside the mastery. We lost a little damage but not enough to be of any concern.

And the rest of it has been buffed so it may give us other options to play with.

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Chubbypuppy написал:

>>> Molten Shell will still be very useful in the build, especially if we divert to Swagger instead of Inexorable

Oh definitely I plan to use MS, my comment was just saying this node adds armor when guard skill is up, and if MS is active then we already have a ton of armor, so not sure if this is worth it.

I always figure extra armor is decent because of our shield. Recovery on block is our number 1 defensive layer with Fortify gone, so the more armor we have, the more we recover thanks to the shield.

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Chubbypuppy написал:

>>> I don't understand when you don't use IC when mapping, it is so strong for clearing to create the chain explosions. The community was so bummed when they lost the explosive chests but we can still explode very easily.

Here my preference shows. I used herald of ash instead of arctic armor, for more damage and clear. I like the MTX I use with it, and warcries not being instant is a little annoying, so I only use it for boss or heavy ultimatum scenarios.

I have used HOA every league except last league. I will be immediately going back to it again since we can get freeze immunity else where.

But even with HOA, I still clear mostly using IC, click Incin, poof screen gone :)

I do agree that it takes getting used to because of the warcry not being instant.

>>>I always figure extra armor is decent because of our shield.

Right, just a question of opportunity cost of 1 passive point.



On reddit POE builds someone asked if the mastery "Cannot be Chilled or Frozen while Casting a Spell" works with channelled skills, and MarkGGG said yes. Not sure if that is good enough to not use Brine King (if Brine King has something better we want)

Probably not, seems like I get frozen most often when I open chests without reading :D

BTW do we still block when we are frozen?