[3.16 - RETIRING BUILD] VD Brands: S-Tier Bosser, A-Tier Map! -- MURDERED BY GGG_INTERN SOMEWHERE--

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LaGueuze написал:
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Hi mate, as much as I want to promote my build, VD has historically been horrible for PCs. I'm not sure how much better it is on a BAMA build but VD has been known to melt computers :(

The good news is, I'm actually going to make a "How to Play PoE on a Potato" video soon :) So I'll try to remember to PM you when that's out! (Or you could follow my YT channel and you'll see when I post it). I have a pretty shit computer too but with some tweaks I managed to make it work.


Hey mate, any advice on it plz?
Do DD/VD MTX help?

CPU is burning :)
Great guide BTW, thanks!


Heya - stygian desecrate seems to work best for me.

But what works most is disabling the sound effects with production_config.ini or something in the PoE folder (My Games > PoE > production_Config). Go to sound_effects_2 or something, set to FALSE (not 0 - FALSE).

Tragic I know but what you gonna do xD

Finally if you are using NVidia Card, disable the HDMI-ready sound driver under Device Manager. Don't let Nvidia handle your audio. This resets every Driver update, don't forget it!

Do let me know if any of these helped.
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Didn’t know about the nvidia sound driver thing. Will have to look into that.
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Przeszczep написал:
How do you move the gems around to fit Sigil of Power?

I've done some calculations regarding Phantasmal Desecrate and it seems to be beneficial (at least if I understand the math correctly). It spawns a Forgotten Corpse at 20% chance which is a Flickershade with 300% hp multiplier.

spectre_chance * spectre_hp + non_spectre_chance * random_hp - normal Desecrate
(spectre_chance * spectre_hp + non_spectre_chance * random_hp) * non_forgotten_chance + forgotten_hp * forgotten_chance - Phantasmal Desecrate

0.15*800+0.75*x < (0.15*800+0.75*x)*0.8 + 300*0.2
Solving this gives x < 240. Which means the corpses will have on average more hp as long as the random zone corpses have less than 240% hp multiplier.
If you assume the random mob has 100% hp multiplier:
((0.15*800+0.75*100)*0.8 + 300*0.2)/(0.15*800+0.75*100) ~= 1.11

Conclusion: Phantasmal Desecrate can give up to (maybe, possibly) 11% more average corpse life while also making the big spectre corpses appear 20% less often.

I've also looked through some poedb monster stats and most monsters seem to have around 100%-150% hp multiplier. Desecrated Bonestalkers have 90% so it could be a nice boost for bossing


Praise the lord dude. I had no idea how to go about doing the math for it, and have had very low energy lately due to chemo. I made the switch to Phanstasmal but couldn't quite quantify it. 11% is pretty huge!!!

Could you help me check if Logbook areas are currently bugged - they seem to have a way smaller spawn pool than normal maps (just like Conq arenas before them). That could be the only time to unequip Phantasmal and go normal.
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I educated myself a bit more and it seems the formula for number of spectre corpses spawned is #_of_spectres/(#_of_spectres+#_of_zone_monsters).
This means Phantasmal Desecrate is better in areas with more monster types. Boss arenas have only one natural corpse which (with 2 spectres) gives 2/(1+2)=0.66 chance to spawn a spectre corpse.
After redoing the calculations:
10 zone monsters, 100% average hp - 1.09
10 zone monsters, 150% average hp - 1.05
1 zone monster (boss arena), 90% average hp - 0.9

Could be nice if you are running really hard maps and need the damage but for bossing normal Desecrate should be better.

Next task: count monster types in maps (I'm not doing it)
I might be missing something obvious but is there any reason to run Volatile Dead at level higher than 1?
The spell damage is not trivial and is essential for clearing. Your bossing and rares are going to die to the corpse explosions though.
Hey there, enjoying the build so far. I haven't played a build that uses health based spectres in a while though, which ones do you use now? Crushclaw or the delve ones? Thanks!
I can't figure out where your block chances are coming from. I have a pretty similar tree and am very far below ya, especially for spell block. Is there something I am missing.
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dksdragon написал:
Hey there, enjoying the build so far. I haven't played a build that uses health based spectres in a while though, which ones do you use now? Crushclaw or the delve ones? Thanks!


I use lithomancers and stoneskin flayer.

If you need I can give you them just send me a message in game.
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Przeszczep написал:
I educated myself a bit more and it seems the formula for number of spectre corpses spawned is #_of_spectres/(#_of_spectres+#_of_zone_monsters).
This means Phantasmal Desecrate is better in areas with more monster types. Boss arenas have only one natural corpse which (with 2 spectres) gives 2/(1+2)=0.66 chance to spawn a spectre corpse.
After redoing the calculations:
10 zone monsters, 100% average hp - 1.09
10 zone monsters, 150% average hp - 1.05
1 zone monster (boss arena), 90% average hp - 0.9

Could be nice if you are running really hard maps and need the damage but for bossing normal Desecrate should be better.

Next task: count monster types in maps (I'm not doing it)


Ahh yes I always wondered why boss arenas had fewer mob types. How did you confirm this natural corpse thing? AFAIk it got fixed for most non-Conq arenas, and Conq Arenas themselves got a fix.

Were you referring to Sirus/Shaper/Maven/Elder?

> Could be nice if you are running really hard maps

Ah, guess this is a T19 100% Deli Pocket Pick then.
💥💫BB Unloader 1000% AoE 70m DPS🗡️🔪🔫: view-thread/3466787
FlickerCoC Ice Nova / Spear Assassin: view-thread/3225536
🔨⚡CWC Lightning Conduit Mjolner Trickster: view-thread/3300148
VD Arcanist Brand Necro: view-thread/2911667

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