(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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Well, I hit level 95 and killed Sirus with this build, neither of which I had done before and those were my two goals this league, so thanks everybody for your help. I'm just working on 100% completing the atlas right now and deciding what I want to do next. Probably kill Atziri/Shaper/Elder. Two questions:

1) How should I modify this build to kill Atziri and survive the damage reflect? Swap bladefall/blade blast for desecrate/cremation, leaving other links the same? Something else?

2) I'm thinking of swapping out my current setup (essence worm + supreme ego + wrath) for clarity + divergent righteous fire + a watcher's eye. Is it worth making this swap if I can only get a watcher's eye with one of "% damage taken recouped as mana while affected by clarity" or "%increased mana regen while affected by clarity", or do you really need both mods for it to be worthwhile? I can afford a single clarity mod watcher's eye, but the ones with multiple mods are out of my price range. If one mod is enough, which one is better? If I make this swap, I'd gain a passive skill point (from dropping supreme ego), would gain all the stats from another cerulean ring that would replace essence worm, and I'd also gain the watcher's eye clarity buff plus the divergent righteous fire spell damage buff. On the other hand, I'd lose the enhanced wrath buff, and I'd have to drop enduring cry + urgent orders support, so I'd have no source of endurance charges. What do people think?

Edit: forgot to mention, I guess I'd also lose the benefits of my Clear Mind jewel if I have clarity reserving mana.

1) I did Atziry at the temple, like 76 lvl or so and only died once to reflect hitting the wrong copy, another one to the big ignite circle, and another one dmg to small circles, my char didn't have what have today but my tips are:

a)Get the pantheon with less reflected dmg taken, try to get a ring with less ele reflect, with that unless you hit the copy holding the mirror your are pretty safe, train the fight in normal atziry, is really easy at low lvl, uber oneshots a lot but is a matter of know the mechanics.

b)I use WE with mana recovery rate I believe, is nice, some say that you
should leave clarity at lvl 1, I have it lvl 20 couse PoB calculates a lot of
regen with a 4% dmg loss instead like .2 dmg loss at lvl 1. Wasgoing to test
a dual WE with clarity recoupe + recovery rate because the one with
vitality/life on hit cost a ton, or 1 with wrath and recoupe, when I put this
WE was really a jump in tankiness but right now dunno how much I loss if I
return to ego/clear mind, I'm around 10.2k mana so...

2)You can't drop essence worm, wrath will reserve mana and it's a lot of dmg loss.

Going wrath/clarity is a boost in ehp if your are struggling in some parts of the game, but if you are really killed Sirus AW8, the elder and shapper are a piece of cake, haven't done maven yet, waiting to lvl and go for it, also, uber elder is kinda messy but doable if you know the solo fights as in uber you face both at the same time and lvl 84 I believe.

Right now I'm lacking some dmg, so I was thinking on going the other way, drop clarity and get suprem ego at least, or getting the WE with wrath/clarity.

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Ulizeus написал:

2)You can't drop essence worm, wrath will reserve mana and it's a lot of dmg loss.

Going wrath/clarity is a boost in ehp if your are struggling in some parts of the game, but if you are really killed Sirus AW8, the elder and shapper are a piece of cake, haven't done maven yet, waiting to lvl and go for it, also, uber elder is kinda messy but doable if you know the solo fights as in uber you face both at the same time and lvl 84 I believe.

Right now I'm lacking some dmg, so I was thinking on going the other way, drop clarity and get suprem ego at least, or getting the WE with wrath/clarity.

So in my hypothetical I wouldn't be running wrath at all. I'd drop supreme ego, essence worm, the wrath gem socketed in essence worm, and enduring cry + urgent orders support. I'd get a level 1 clarity (buffed by watcher's eye) and a 20/20 divergent righteous fire in return. Mana pool would get a big boost from running a second cerulean ring in place of the statless essence worm, and the combo of larger mana pool plus spell damage buff from divergent RF would hopefully cover the loss of wrath (although I'd also be losing the damage buff from clear mind.) I guess I could math this out in POB but I'm curious if anyone else has made this switch.

Also, don't give me too much credit, I only killed Sirus A0. I'll be ramping up the awakening level as I get more comfortable with the fight mechanics.

how do you guys play this build? its definitely not a two button build

feels extremely clunky. its a bfbb already clunky but defenses make it even more so. Grace enduring cry sigil of power fortify feels tiring

all the things the build requires to work is almost as bad as slam builds.
Intensify + AC + Sigil of Power for damage feels really bad.

gear and level will make it all better but yall got any little tips tricks (and secrets o.O)?

Also this build made me remember why i hated archmage builds. Im not here to talk smack about the build i just want to know you peaople's thoughts on how to make this build easier on my fingers

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Shanwen222 написал:

how do you guys play this build? its definitely not a two button build

feels extremely clunky. its a bfbb already clunky but defenses make it even more so. Grace enduring cry sigil of power fortify feels tiring

all the things the build requires to work is almost as bad as slam builds.
Intensify + AC + Sigil of Power for damage feels really bad.

gear and level will make it all better but yall got any little tips tricks (and secrets o.O)?

Also this build made me remember why i hated archmage builds. Im not here to talk smack about the build i just want to know you peaople's thoughts on how to make this build easier on my fingers

So, firstly, I put Arcane Cloak on my move skill. It's instant, so whenever it's off cooldown it auto casts it.

After that - in maps, I almost never use anything except BF/BB. I can run through a map and clear everything using just those two buttons.

If I'm running the ultimatums - and I usually am, these days - I add in the other three skills every few casts. So it goes something like:

Sigil
BF/BB
BF/BB
BF/BB
Fortify
BF/BB
BF/BB
BF/BB
Enduring Cry
BF/BB
BF/BB
BF/BB

and then back to the top.

Furthermore... this isn't a build where you spam your attack skill. I cast BF/BB about every 1-2 seconds, so your keypresses per second are actually much lower than you think.

As for the BF/BB clunkiness - that gets to a very manageable state after you stack up some cast speed.

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Ulizeus написал:

2)You can't drop essence worm, wrath will reserve mana and it's a lot of dmg loss.

Going wrath/clarity is a boost in ehp if your are struggling in some parts of the game, but if you are really killed Sirus AW8, the elder and shapper are a piece of cake, haven't done maven yet, waiting to lvl and go for it, also, uber elder is kinda messy but doable if you know the solo fights as in uber you face both at the same time and lvl 84 I believe.

Right now I'm lacking some dmg, so I was thinking on going the other way, drop clarity and get suprem ego at least, or getting the WE with wrath/clarity.

So in my hypothetical I wouldn't be running wrath at all. I'd drop supreme ego, essence worm, the wrath gem socketed in essence worm, and enduring cry + urgent orders support. I'd get a level 1 clarity (buffed by watcher's eye) and a 20/20 divergent righteous fire in return. Mana pool would get a big boost from running a second cerulean ring in place of the statless essence worm, and the combo of larger mana pool plus spell damage buff from divergent RF would hopefully cover the loss of wrath (although I'd also be losing the damage buff from clear mind.) I guess I could math this out in POB but I'm curious if anyone else has made this switch.

Also, don't give me too much credit, I only killed Sirus A0. I'll be ramping up the awakening level as I get more comfortable with the fight mechanics.

Some folks have dropped wrath entirely like this and it still works.

Look into a flat mana ring instead of the Cerulean - I haven't run the numbers recently, but we have so much %increased mana I'll be shocked if it's not more effective.

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Ulizeus написал:

Sup, just got super lucky and got a HH drop from a no mana regen map, hahaha
Well, seems hard to put 1 on this build so my question is:

Should I move stuff around to equip it (mostly resistances will be bad after swap) or sell it and get a lot of improvements?

My POB: https://pastebin.com/pz8hxKZ0

Doing almost everything in rare or AW8 kinda easy, having sometimes trouble wih dmg output, anyway, thx in advance and still having fun, not so much zdps but really solid.

If I were going to try to fit the HH, I'd likely move to the Clarity version. That way you can have 2 rings with resists instead of one and an Essence worm, that will make the resistance loss on your belt a lot easier to deal with.

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slatejupiter42 написал:

glimpse of chaos looks to be really nice for archmage. especially if you get a nice corruption (blind, malediction) and remove the reduced lightning res+ inc. ES mod. also helps with chaos res and being an evasion base. thoughts ?

I don't follow your thought here... how would you go about removing the reduced lightning resist?

It only helps your chaos resist if you're below zero. If you're above, it's a penalty.

Replacing my current Crown of the Inward eye in POB doesn't look great - it's a pretty big hit in the resistances, boosts my life and mana by ~230 each, my DPS drops from 14.1 million to 11.4 million.

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Enkryptions написал:

Hey all, first of all loving this build - have a mapping/farming build but this is the smoothest boss killer with clear ability I've played in a few leagues.

Looking to step into mid-end(ish) game weapons and prices immediately jump into the 50ex+ range for even decent rolls. More than happy to drop 10-15ex but 50 is a whole character worth of gear. Was wondering if someone had a suggestion for filters to look or examples of weapons they run that won't break the bank.

Thanks.

This should get you started on the search:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/zWvD5v2F4

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Jenkem420 написал:

love this build so far. but i have a few questions.
1. everyone is talking about dps of 5-30mil, i have like 280k all buffed up, when i look ingame for my bladeexplosion skill.
2. ive exportet my character to poeplanner but the resistances are way to high there, im currently 76%, 75%, 101% and 21% for chaos. and the max mana displayed there is also wrong, ive got 9.3k+ ingame. any ideas?

heres the link: https://poeplanner.com/b/dbM

also, any sugesstions what i should update next?

For comparison, my in game buffed tooltip is ~370k for bladeblast, and actual DPS output is at least 10 million.

As for suggestions...
- Drop the life flask. I'm willing to bet that Agnostic on the tree heals you faster than that flask.
- Fix the rest of your flasks. Wise Oak? Usually elemental damage isn't a problem, which is why we use a taste of hate for extra physical mitigation, and if you're using it for the damage boost, you're likely better off with an Atziri's Promise. Divine mana flask should be Eternal for the extra up time.
- Throw a divine or two at your Cloak of Defiance. Shouldn't take much to get better than average rolls instead of the lower than average you have now.
- Conductivity on hit ring would be pretty nice, and probably not terribly expensive.
- I'd replace the harvest quality craft on your second sceptre for sure, accuracy doesn't help us. Personally I like the option, "Grants 1% increased elemental damage per 2% quality". I'd probably put that on both. I did on mine, anyway! :)
- I'd drop the Empower and Enlighten for Vaal Righteous Fire and Enduring Cry. Use the VRF for a DPS boost on tough bosses, run the regular RF all the time, unless the map has reduced recovery. Enduring cry for the endurance charges.

@ Shanwen222

like said some posts before i love this built. Yesterday i killed Sirus A7 on a 5-link. 10 min ago i saw i linked arcane surge with sigil instead of cloak. so i don't really have maxed this out ;D i'am also playing without grace or rf (don't really know why)

yes it can be stressfull in hard combats but it's less clunky than other builts in this budget range.

today i will try to get the 6-link and some enchantments in lab. also change my stupid gems ;D

from pob it takes me from 3,6kk dps to nearly 8 and is a huge upgrade to survivability.

sorry for bad london it's not my native