[3.15 WIP] Saboteur Crit BL Mines (Life League-start/SSF to Budget LL ES All Content Viable)

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Astroelmeria написал:

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jpypoe написал:

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Ironfrank123 написал:

Do you think Born in Shadow is a good Ascendancy to get more tanky? Does Blind Enemies on hit work with mines?

No but Blind nearby enemies works quite good.
The leveling guide recommends you get it first. You can optionally keep it all the way to end game, more recently on standard with the LL ES variant, awakened gems/8k ES/Aspect of the Spider I wasn’t using it but I need to test post changes. Aspect of the Spider in particular will be a lot harder to fit in.

On-hit effects do work, blind from that ascendancy node included. The mines should inherit the properties of your hit, but they're the ones hitting. So anything that would give YOU, the player, a buff/debuff would be attributed to the mine instead, hence why leech/on-kill effects/etc. don't work.

Edited for clarity.

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Tyetan1 написал:

Firstly, brilliant guide and very comprehensive. Hats off to you for that one

Secondly, will definitely follow you build for the new league, but quick question regarding leveling section. I noticed it has ball lightning - minefield but isnt linked to either blastchain or high impact mines? Im assuming its just an mistype bacause i was under the impression that minefield does not turn ball lightning into a mine skill on its own

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jpypoe написал:

The more I think about it the more I like Inspiration taking Elemental Focus’ spot on the support list. I checked PoB and for my budget setup it was maybe 5% DPS loss, not taking into account the potential to Shock with the ailment threshold changes. This means you can keep your Herald of Thunder (and potentially even have room for Clarity which is very nice due to the Arcane Surge changes), you have no stress with reaching your active mine cap, and you have no worries about having mana for CWDT/IC or even linking it with Increased Duration. It’s also the solution to keeping the amazing Aspect of the Spider option on a little higher of an investment build (can’t stress how nice this is for high mobility bosses etc that can get out of your BL radius). I’ll be updating the PoB today to include the new links and making some adjustments to drop a few reduced mana reservation nodes as I don’t think they’ll be necessary pre Aspect of the Spider unless you’re trying to fit in something like Flesh and Stone (which is another great option for the budget end game setup if you want to drop Born in the Shadows and I’ll add that to the PoB as well).

Also think I’ve found a solution to manual cast Conductivity for the Malachai’s Artifice-Armegeddon Brand red map setup, and I have some more notes and resources to add to the mapping section. I’ll edit this post when the PoB is updated.

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Astroelmeria написал:

I'm glad that us talking has helped improve your build! You've clearly put a lot of effort into it and it can only get better from here. Makes me very happy to see someone spread their love for mines to everyone who wants to give it a shot. Hope the new league treats you well! :)

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m0ffd0g написал:

Just a side note, im playing this build. However, lvling with Eye of winter. Its amazing as a miner :o might be worth looking at

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Schreckens написал:

So why are you using Icicle Mine in the red map section but in the POB it's not there, is BL Mine enough after red maps and you don't need Icicle anymore?

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jpypoe написал:

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Schreckens написал:

So why are you using Icicle Mine in the red map section but in the POB it's not there, is BL Mine enough after red maps and you don't need Icicle anymore?

The PoB gems are strictly for the end game setup, refer to the mapping section for gems and links for mapping. In the near future we’ll solve this by having two completely separate PoBs. Once you have a 5 link you can drop Icicle Mine and use only BL with gem swapping Slower Projectiles for LMP when mapping, then swapping back for bosses but I’d keep Icicle Mine if the clear speed is not an issue because you get an extra defensive layer from freeze (we get a lot of Crit so we can freeze map mobs consistently) and more instant chill application. I’ve been a bit short on availability so I’ve only had a few hours to play my SSF Expedition Sab so far and I’m testing things for the guide as I go so it’s even slower, I just finished Merc lab and act 7 this morning. Up until now I’ve had 0 issues with Icicle clear (it’s actually very good) but by mapping we intend to drop the crafted wands for +1 Lightning skill gems. If you want to keep using Icicle Mine you need to prioritize +Lightning Damage to spells craft from bench after crafting the base or the drop off for clear may be too impactful, if you go the gem swap route with only BL then crit to spells bench craft is almost surely better. I need to test further to say for sure, should be able to play tonight and start mapping. Good luck!

E: so far the build has performed very well leveling. We taper down a bit in boss killing speed from Act 3-6 bosses but it’s still quite good. Around Act 7 seems like a good time to make the BL swap from what I’m seeing, you have enough mana passives by then to manage the full 19 stack with leftover mana without sacrificing an aura but you need the BBGG 4 link to make it feel good. I’ll most likely emphasize earlier life passives when I next update leveling PoBs as the campaign is less forgiving than before and I think that’ll help a lot of people but you can always skip them in favor of the damage options if you feel confident in your understanding of mechanics etc.