Let’s Bring PvP Back in PoE 2: A Call to the Community - Theres a Tldr

Please no. PvP in this style game just doesn't work imo. Even GGG agrees because they tried to add it forever ago in 1 and completely abandoned it since then. I genuinely hope they don't waste any development time on PvP ever.
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Azimuthus#1135 написал:
PVP will never work in an ARPG. It doesnt work even in D2 (no matter what some super tiny minority say). And to understand WHY you must go check best PVP moba games and see how they are made, how items are made, how skills and chars are made. Short answer: as minimum variables in every system as possible (total opposite of what poe is).

If you want pvp in POE2 - it will work only with preset characters with fixed unchageable build, fixed unchangeable items. But I doubt you'll want to play this way.

100%

I have airways hated PvP in every progression based game like WoW where the players aren't on equal footing and twinks run around dominating because they're richer, not because they're better. But PvP games where everyone starts equal more like LoL it's a good design.

There no way they could reasonable make predefined characters in this game without a riot though. Since we already know almost no one will ever engage with it from it existing in 1 and being unused basically since it can't of, this would be s waste of Deb resources taking away from the other vital work this game needs. Maybe after release but even then I never see it working at all.
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KaosuRyoko#1633 написал:
I have airways hated PvP in every progression based game like WoW


PvP was the only thing that kept me in WoW for years. It was amazing before they given everything to everyone and cleave became bread and butter.

In Poe however, I don't see how could they make pvp good.
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Evergrey#7535 написал:
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KaosuRyoko#1633 написал:
I have airways hated PvP in every progression based game like WoW


PvP was the only thing that kept me in WoW for years. It was amazing before they given everything to everyone and cleave became bread and butter.

In Poe however, I don't see how could they make pvp good.

I guess I could clarify that PvP in WoW was alright once everyone was equal level and more or less equally geared - though my dial up didn't let me engage with it anyways. PvP at any other time was terrible imo unless you were the one twinking, and then either you just one shot people with no counter play or challenge, or you pay against a bunch of other twinks in a /more/ balanced match. At least that was my experience and perspective. I remember initially thinking the idea of PvP in WoW, both open world and arena, was such a cool idea and being excited to jump into it but then actually hating every second of anything PvP related in that game. I might have enjoyed the endgame grandmaster climb with better internet though.

PoE just has no practical ceiling at any level, however. Those level 29 rogue twinks sucked, but there was still at least a cap on their power. In PoE you can move a low level character several different ways with enough currency well beyond what anyone else at that level could. It's only more crazy at max level.
Последняя редакция: KaosuRyoko#1633. Время: 4 авг. 2025 г., 09:26:16
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KaosuRyoko#1633 написал:
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Evergrey#7535 написал:
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KaosuRyoko#1633 написал:
I have airways hated PvP in every progression based game like WoW


PvP was the only thing that kept me in WoW for years. It was amazing before they given everything to everyone and cleave became bread and butter.

In Poe however, I don't see how could they make pvp good.

I guess I could clarify that PvP in WoW was alright once everyone was equal level and more or less equally geared - though my dial up didn't let me engage with it anyways. PvP at any other time was terrible imo unless you were the one twinking, and then either you just one shot people with no counter play or challenge, or you pay against a bunch of other twinks in a /more/ balanced match. At least that was my experience and perspective. I remember initially thinking the idea of PvP in WoW, both open world and arena, was such a cool idea and being excited to jump into it but then actually hating every second of anything PvP related in that game. I might have enjoyed the endgame grandmaster climb with better internet though.

PoE just has no practical ceiling at any level, however. Those level 29 rogue twinks sucked, but there was still at least a cap on their power. In PoE you can move a low level character several different ways with enough currency well beyond what anyone else at that level could. It's only more crazy at max level.


I was strictly speaking about max level arenas. Nothing else mattered tbh.

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