POE2 is Junk and "The Vision" [Removed by Support]

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Kerchunk#7797 написал:

They have dropped an average of two patches a week since EA dropped. How often do you want them to update guy?

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JakkerONAIR#4902 написал:

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kumogakure#7381 написал:

And the only reason the campaign bears some resemblance of "slow and meaningful" combat, is because Johnathan has taken away the tools to do anything else.

The currency drops (including things like omens and essences) are so stingy that they might as well not exist during the campaign, and thus players end up playing the campaign with one hand tied behind the back and one eye sawn shut.

The "bad luck protection" in the recent patch being limited to the first time you kill a campaign boss, is one example of that stinginess.

The moment you enter the endgame and are able to farm for the currencies properly, you find that all that meaningful combat is out the window.

POE2 did not achieve the vision by designing for the vision. POE2 is trying to achieve that vision by limiting players, and that's why campaign feels so bad.

I think it's delusional to think that PoE can have "meaningful combat" in the first place. PoE and basically any other ARPG are games based on "stat checking". You can't overcome shit in the game if your stats are to low, and THAT is the prime example of "souls-like" games... you can, in fact, overcome everything with skill, no matter your stats.

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NoyAvargel#6918 написал:

can you please take over jonathan place or atleast have a podcast with him and explain that to him? man i wanna play ARPG i wanna hold 1 key and kill 5 bilion mobs a day i dont want meaningful or should i say stressful combat

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JakkerONAIR#4902 написал:

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NoyAvargel#6918 написал:

can you please take over jonathan place or atleast have a podcast with him and explain that to him? man i wanna play ARPG i wanna hold 1 key and kill 5 bilion mobs a day i dont want meaningful or should i say stressful combat

I mean, it's technically possible to have "meaningful combat", but not how they try to make it work.

How to do it:
First, you need to ensure that all "main damage skills" are actually good on their own to clear the game without using combos, so everybody who wants to play "one-button builds" can do it.
BUT the "non-damage skills" have to be designed in a way that gives ppl even more damage, when they "take the time" to engage with this "meaningful combat".
Basically, if you want to play one-button builds - it works just fine.
And if you use "combos" - you get a "reward" on top of an already working skill.

But that won't happen. They don't want you to play one-button builds AND they don't want to adjust the game (speed, for example) to make combos actually enjoyable.

It's like... wth are they doing!?

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How to do it:
First, you need to ensure that all "main damage skills" are actually good on their own to clear the game without using combos, so everybody who wants to play "one-button builds" can do it.
BUT the "non-damage skills" have to be designed in a way that gives ppl even more damage, when they "take the time" to engage with this "meaningful combat".
Basically, if you want to play one-button builds - it works just fine.
And if you use "combos" - you get a "reward" on top of an already working skill.

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xpose#1651 написал:

A lot of you need to unplug and just come back at 1.0 release as its apparent you cannot handle the highs and lows that a early access game endures

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A lot of you need to unplug and just come back at 1.0 release as its apparent you cannot handle the highs and lows that a early access game endures