Lightning Exposure Is Not Working Properly

GGG, I believe that your Support Gem "Lightning Exposure" is not working properly in the following scenario:

According to the In-Game Tool Tip of "Lightning Exposure", it is considered a Debuff that is applied to a Shocked target.
However, when "Lightning Exposure" is used in combination with the Support Gems "Overcharge" & "Commiserate" on enemies, the Debuff of "Lightning Exposure" is applied to the player, but not removed from player when it is applied to an enemy.

This outcome is not congruent with how the description of these Support Gems are worded.
Allow me to explain my point:

Since "Lightning Exposure" is not considered an Ailment, that means that this Debuff should only be applied to the enemies that are Shocked and not applied to the player because only Ailments are suppose to be reflected back to the player.
And as we just established, "Lightning Exposure" is considered a Debuff and not an Ailment.

Now, here are what I believe are the 2 best logical solutions to this scenario based upon how you intended the POE2 game to play:

1. Change the wording description of "Overcharge" to include a description like "Shocks & Shock Related Debuffs Caused By Support Skills Are Reflected Back To You".

2. Change the current way that the Support Gem "Commiserate" works with "Lightning Exposure" so that this Debuff can actually be removed from the player, just like how the Shock Ailment works when it is removed from the player in this scenario.

Please be willing to make a correction to this scenario because in it's current state, it is very much illogical according to the game's own Support Gem description.

And as evidence of credibility regarding all my wording in this post, I will post a screen-shot of all the Glossary Terms that I have Underlined and Italicized for the readers' convenience.

I am usually not in the habit of "bumping" my own posts, however, I would really appreciate some feedback from the GGG Staff on this topic.

"Clarification Is King" in detail-oriented matters of this kind, so please reply back for reassurance on the matter.

Thank you!

Not staff, but as I see it:



Overcharge is only reflecting the Shock, but it's still being inflicted by the skill.

Lightning Exposure inflicts exposure on targets shocked by the skill--which, due to Overcharge, includes you.

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Jadian#0111 написал:

Not staff, but as I see it:



Overcharge is only reflecting the Shock, but it's still being inflicted by the skill.

Lightning Exposure inflicts exposure on targets shocked by the skill--which, due to Overcharge, includes you.

Yes, I understand the target portion of the Tool Tip descriptions.

However, the conflict with how the description is explained is that "Lightning Exposure" is considered to be a Debuff and not an Ailment.
Thus, the Debuff should not be applied to the player(target) because that result is not included in the description of "Overcharge".

You see, if "Lightning Exposure" was suppose to be reflected back to the player(target), then "Lightning Exposure" would need to be considered an Ailment by the game's own definition of the term, but "Lightning Exposure" is not considered an Ailment; instead it is considered a Debuff.

In short, this result is an illogical conclusion based upon the previously established premise.

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DivineEyes#2199 написал:

Thus, the Debuff should not be applied to the player(target) because that result is not included in the description of "Overcharge".

Overcharge is not reflecting the debuff.

Overcharge causes the skill to Shock you. This is Overcharge's full contribution to the scenario, it reflects nothing else.

Now, the skill has Shocked a target (you). Because the skill Shocked a target, Lightning Exposure applies its Debuff to the target (you). This is purely the behavior of the Lightning Exposure support gem, which does not discriminate between you and your enemy.

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Jadian#0111 написал:

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DivineEyes#2199 написал:

Thus, the Debuff should not be applied to the player(target) because that result is not included in the description of "Overcharge".

Overcharge is not reflecting the debuff.

Overcharge causes the skill to Shock you. This is Overcharge's full contribution to the scenario, it reflects nothing else.

Now, the skill has Shocked a target (you). Because the skill Shocked a target, Lightning Exposure applies its Debuff to the target (you). This is purely the behavior of the Lightning Exposure support gem, which does not discriminate between you and your enemy.

I have make it clear that you are incorrect with your assessment, Jadian.

It is the reflection mechanic from "Overcharge" that is causing the "Lightning Exposure" Debuff to the player.

I just tested hitting enemies with "Lightning Exposure" without "Overcharge" equipped and I never received a "Lightning Exposure" Debuff even once.
It was only with "Overcharge" equipped did I receive the "Lightning Exposure" Debuff.

So, I stand by my original claim of my post:
"Overcharge" is not working with "Lightning Exposure" as it is described in the game description and this result should be corrected.

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DivineEyes#2199 написал:

I just tested hitting enemies with "Lightning Exposure" without "Overcharge" equipped and I never received a "Lightning Exposure" Debuff even once.
It was only with "Overcharge" equipped did I receive the "Lightning Exposure" Debuff.

I don’t get what you were trying to prove with this test. What skill did you hit with? Was it able to shock you without Overcharge? I highly doubt it.

Shock reflection makes you shocked by the supported skill. This meets the condition for lightning exposure to apply.

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MonaHuna#6449 написал:

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DivineEyes#2199 написал:

I just tested hitting enemies with "Lightning Exposure" without "Overcharge" equipped and I never received a "Lightning Exposure" Debuff even once.
It was only with "Overcharge" equipped did I receive the "Lightning Exposure" Debuff.

I don’t get what you were trying to prove with this test. What skill did you hit with? Was it able to shock you without Overcharge? I highly doubt it.

Shock reflection makes you shocked by the supported skill. This meets the condition for lightning exposure to apply.

This test proved that the "Lightning Exposure" Debuff is being reflected back to the player through the "Overcharge" Support Gem mechanic when it should not do so.

I hit enemies with "Tempest Flurry" in combination with "Herald Of Thunder", so that I could prove that I was Shocking the enemies.
The damage from "Herald Of Thunder" will not activate unless the enemies are Shocked.

As I have previously mentioned twice now:
"Lightning Exposure" is a Debuff and is not an Ailment.
"Overcharge" states that ONLY Shocks are reflected back to the you (the player); not that Debuffs are reflected back.

Thus, the current combination of game mechanics are working incorrectly based upon the current Support Gem descriptions.

This is not as hard to understand as one might think that it is; it is simply calculated mathematics~

Can you forget about Overcharge for a moment and read what Lightning Exposure gem says:

Supported Skills inflict Lightning Exposure for 8 seconds on Shocking a target

Maybe one of my previous replies would help.

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MonaHuna#6449 написал:

Can you forget about Overcharge for a moment and read what Lightning Exposure gem says:

Supported Skills inflict Lightning Exposure for 8 seconds on Shocking a target

Maybe one of my previous replies would help.

I understand what the description of "Lightning Exposure" states and what it does in application of the POE2 game.

My point on is that, as I have stated three times now, "Lightning Exposure" is NOT a Debuff and yet it is being applied to the player despite the fact the "Overcharge" Support Gem mechanic does not state that Debuffs will be reflected back to the player.
ONLY Shock Ailments are stated in "Overcharge" to be reflected back and "Lightning Exposure" is NOT an Ailment.

Is this distinction between how Debuffs work and how Ailments work really so difficult to understand?
For me, it is rather easy to understand, which is why I am stating the distinction here in this post.
I am surprised more people have not noticed this distinction and have not brought attention to it to be changed.
After all, I did not make these mechanics or these descriptions; I am only comprehending them towards a logical conclusion.

Honestly, I do not know why you do not agree with my assessment when it is, from my perspective, without error.